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the illusion of reality
symbols
#81 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:41:45 AM
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Your life is not your own.If it were you could choose when you get sick,when you get better,when you start living,when you die.Nothing would be beyond your control.

We are given a lease on life and with it comes consciousness and with consciousness comes choices.But with life comes our worst source of pride.The pride of being alive.Just like the young are proud of the their youth so are men proud of their lives.

Rich or poor,healthy or sick,male or female,we are proud because there are those who shall never exist and we have.Our greatest fear is thus tied to our pride and our choices.

Our greatest fear is not fear of the unknown.Our greatest fear is the giver of life,whatever you may perceive it to be.For we live under submission to life yet our pride comes from being alive.A constant reminder that we have nothing to be proud of but fearful of the giver of life.

Instead of facing this we choose to indulge ourselves while pursing a futile endeavor to take control of our lives and to some,the lives of others.We go so far as to submit ourselves to the authority of others and society in an attempt to evade the consequences of our choices which solely lie in our hands no matter the circumstances.

But this also is futile for no man can take control of your choices without your cooperation.To do this would mean to take control of your consciousness and that is impossible.

Pride is fear for at the very least it is attempted robbery and ultimately an attempt at a coup.Where there is pride there is fear and the death of pride is the birth of joy.
digitek1
#82 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:29:06 AM
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Applause
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
tycho
#83 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:48:42 PM
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Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
Your life is not your own.If it were you could choose when you get sick,when you get better,when you start living,when you die.Nothing would be beyond your control.

We are given a lease on life and with it comes consciousness and with consciousness comes choices.But with life comes our worst source of pride.The pride of being alive.Just like the young are proud of the their youth so are men proud of their lives.

Rich or poor,healthy or sick,male or female,we are proud because there are those who shall never exist and we have.Our greatest fear is thus tied to our pride and our choices.

Our greatest fear is not fear of the unknown.Our greatest fear is the giver of life,whatever you may perceive it to be.For we live under submission to life yet our pride comes from being alive.A constant reminder that we have nothing to be proud of but fearful of the giver of life.

Instead of facing this we choose to indulge ourselves while pursing a futile endeavor to take control of our lives and to some,the lives of others.We go so far as to submit ourselves to the authority of others and society in an attempt to evade the consequences of our choices which solely lie in our hands no matter the circumstances.

But this also is futile for no man can take control of your choices without your cooperation.To do this would mean to take control of your consciousness and that is impossible.

Pride is fear for at the very least it is attempted robbery and ultimately an attempt at a coup.Where there is pride there is fear and the death of pride is the birth of joy.


'Your life isn't your own'. Notice what is happening here. There's self consciousness here. And self consciousness implies seperation.

Pride is the prop of our ignorance, against the background of our divine nature.

The serpent, 'deceives' and 'heals'. All the children of Israel must look up to it. Lucifer- light bearer.

Pride is being 'bitten' by 'pseudo snakes' and consequently dying.

Pride is Adam and Eve clothing themselves.
guru267
#84 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:04:19 PM
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Why do the Romans today loathe the Christianity they started or ridicule the Bible they wrote?? Unless these were merely tools for attaining a secular world and nothing more!

They seemed to have dumped something on us (Africans & Latin Americans) that we now believe blindly today! Sad

The path to discovering the 'I' is only PARTIALLY & sometimes INCORRECTLY explained by religion or the bible!

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
tycho
#85 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:14:50 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Why do the Romans today loathe the Christianity they started or ridicule the Bible they wrote?? Unless these were merely tools for attaining a secular world and nothing more!

They seemed to have dumped something on us (Africans & Latin Americans) that we now believe blindly today! Sad

The path to discovering the 'I' is only PARTIALLY & sometimes INCORRECTLY explained by religion or the bible!



Who are the present day Romans? Where are they?

We get to the whole via the parts. The door is the house. In a way.
Ngong
#86 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:17:42 PM
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Lets summarize lesson[s] learned..
1.I agree.To see the light you have to believe it is there.Such a funny twist.
tycho
#87 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2013 5:37:28 AM
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Ngong wrote:
Lets summarize lesson[s] learned..
1.I agree.To see the light you have to believe it is there.Such a funny twist.


The light is and has always been there. It's man who needs to build up the capacity to perceive it.
tycho
#88 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2013 5:42:13 AM
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Ngong wrote:
Lets summarize lesson[s] learned..
1.I agree.To see the light you have to believe it is there.Such a funny twist.


The light is and has always been there. It's man who needs to build up the capacity to perceive it.
symbols
#89 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 5:50:35 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
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If you wake up when you start becoming too lucid in a dream,can the same principle be extended to our normal state of consciousness?
symbols
#90 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 5:52:05 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
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guru267 wrote:
Why do the Romans today loathe the Christianity they started or ridicule the Bible they wrote?? Unless these were merely tools for attaining a secular world and nothing more!

They seemed to have dumped something on us (Africans & Latin Americans) that we now believe blindly today! Sad

The path to discovering the 'I' is only PARTIALLY & sometimes INCORRECTLY explained by religion or the bible!



How do you see the 'I'?I think we like submitting to authority because its easier than discovery.
symbols
#91 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 5:55:14 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
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Ngong wrote:
Lets summarize lesson[s] learned..
1.I agree.To see the light you have to believe it is there.Such a funny twist.


When you plant a seed,do you see a tree?
tycho
#92 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:43:42 AM
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symbols wrote:
If you wake up when you start becoming too lucid in a dream,can the same principle be extended to our normal state of consciousness?


Can one wake up from the normal state of consciousness? Yes.
guru267
#93 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:44:24 AM
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tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Why do the Romans today loathe the Christianity they started or ridicule the Bible they wrote?? Unless these were merely tools for attaining a secular world and nothing more!

They seemed to have dumped something on us (Africans & Latin Americans) that we now believe blindly today! Sad

The path to discovering the 'I' is only PARTIALLY & sometimes INCORRECTLY explained by religion or the bible!



Who are the present day Romans? Where are they?


They devil's home has always been in Rome/Europe!

Since the dawn of true civilization the devil has always used Rome/Europe in one way or another to fight his earthly battles with God!

The main success of Rome under Satan was to launch a coup d'etat against Christianity...

It involved luring Christianity in its initial stages after Jesus death to Rome and finally crucifying Simon Peter (Jesus rock) all this before the development of a bible or any real Christian doctrine...

By doing this Satan ensured he had total control over the content of the bible and Christian doctrine through the emperor while still maintaining legitimacy as Peter had died as The Bishop of Rome!

This led to the birth of Roman Catholics... But since this was a creation of Satan and not God we are where we are today with Christianity!

God promised Satan a period of free reign over the world..
Throughout civilization there has been only one world ruler aka Rome/Europe! This can be seen from the days of Herod, all the way to colonialism and Todays EU and USA...


Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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