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Conversion of Christianity to Islam
Rassa
#121 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 6:14:00 AM
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@Njunge

Allah is an Arabic word for God. Even in Arabic bible they use Allah. Naturally Arabs wont use Jehovah/Mungu or another name to refer to God.

And instead of debating on trivial thing why dont you debate on the main dogma of your belief-trinity.Ati 3 in 1.While Jesus himself didnt say he is God. Who are we to change his teachings.

What did Jesus said.

'...The first of all the commandments is,Hear,O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.' (Mark 12:29)

And this is the stern warning from the Holy Quran.

'...take not,with God,another object of worship,lest you should be thrown into Hell,blameworthy and rejected.' (Qur'an 17:39)

God is not like a pie or an apple which can be divided into three thirds which form one whole; if God is three persons or possesses three parts,He is assuredly not the Single,Unique,Indivisible Being which God is and which Christianity professes to believe in

The dogma of Trinity came to christianity around 325 not through jesus but through some european bishops at Nicea.


We can draw lessons from the past,but we cannot live in it.
Njunge
#122 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 6:21:00 AM
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@Mainat,

Nope....!!....,

@Rassa,

No need to rant and rave.Read my article with an open mind and you will see where the lies are.Sample this:

Tabari VI:21

'Qusayy purchased the custodianship of the Ka'aba for a skin full of wine and a lute.' While this variant earns kudos for nonviolence,it's hardly religious. Purchasing the shrine that stands at the center of Islamic life,their god's house,for things their religion outlaws - music and booze - is laughably ironic. It's also an example of conflicting 'truths.'

BTW.

Is allah arabic for god?.......Noooo....!!!....Arabic for God is Ila....You wonna bet??





Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Rassa
#123 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 6:43:00 AM
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@ Njunge

Dont copy and paste cow dungs here. And then you say its your article... The site which you copied all this dungs are known haters of of Islam.

In the meantime while you look somewhere to copy and paste many other people are discovering Islam and converting to this great religion. And since you know Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world you should research it with an open heart. I am sure you will discover the truth which is sealed by your priests. Try it.


We can draw lessons from the past,but we cannot live in it.
Njunge
#124 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 7:01:00 AM
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@Rassa,

By taking 'My' to mean mine article,you take literally to the next level.........Nothing like Hadidh..........No need for epithets anway.The facts are there for you to read and the best you can do is to answer rationally and with solid facts........and who said majority are always right??.......Getting mad won't make anyone believe you....!!....BTW.....All the quotes are from the Quran.Confirm if there is any which does not match the said verses word for word.....!!



Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Tutu
#125 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 7:05:00 AM
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@ Rassa

And instead of debating on trivial thing why dont you debate on the main dogma of your belief-trinity.Ati 3 in 1.

With reference to your above allegation,kindly take the bible and read it thru and thru before saying eti somebody invented it. Eti some European Bishop&hellip;..

Ask for clarifications on it and let somebody educate u instead of &hellip;.

Read the Gospel according to St. John


For me to live is Jesus Christ,to die is gain
pauloti
#126 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 7:45:00 AM
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christianity was brought to africa by the colonialists in the belief that they would civillize and bring culture and faith to africans. they assumed we were dumb and stupid,and aslo wanted to use religion to instill a fear of god so as to control us. to a certain extent the muslims did the same with us. and in essence till date we are still like dumb sheep being led by different shpeherds. we have no beliefs of own,as a country and continent. the arabs have islam,asians have budhism,hinduism,the west have christianity. what do we have? zero. we should bring back the religions of our forefathers and stop with all this colonial religions!
AlphDoti
#127 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 8:58:00 AM
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I hope I'm contributing positively to improve knowledge among ourselves.

If I've written anything correct,then it's from God's grace.

And if I've written something incorrect,then it's my own ignorance and fault.



@njunge:

The fact that somebody appreciated your way of reasoning does not mean you just debate for sake of it.

We are not here to win or loose no. Just educate ourselves.

You know there are hate sites that may deceive you into copying what they say just because it supports your side of thinking.

If you may,use the Bible first as your first reference,guided by research work done by others.



@tutu: if you check properly,all people here have taken reference of the Bible all along.



@anasazi: is there any contradiction about what I have stated here and what the Quran and/or Bible says about Isa/Jesus?

Isa/Jesus was conceived through the word of God.

Angel Jibrel (Gabriel) is the one who delivered message to Mariam (Mary).

He used to pray every day in the Sinagogue.

He used to wash his feet before prayer.

He used to lead his companions in prayer. All facing one direction.

He used to prostrate in prayer.

He used to wear kanzu na turban.

He used to pray alfajiri,adhuhuri,alasiri,na hata usiku.

I'm very open minded.



@all:

But why don't we respond to what @rassa has suggested?

Debate on the main dogma of your belief - TRINITY. Ati 3 in 1.

While Jesus himself didn't say he is God.

Who are we to change his teachings.


AKS
Njunge
#128 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 9:17:00 AM
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It is interesting that even with facts on the table,your only defence is 'hater'.That cannot be regarded as HARD FACTS...........You end up going back to your pet subject of trinity.For good measure,be informed.The Son can never be the Father and neither can the holy spirit......I repeat,.'There is only one God and his name is Yehova........'...and that's the bible not me.

By now,am certain you have gone over the article with a comb and a magnifier.I challenge you,Is there any part of the entire reading which you believe misrepresents facts as they stand????......or quotes that which is not in Quran word for word?.....Spare me the hate thing and this time,with the gauntlet right on your feet,pliz,do me a favour.DO NOT SLIP AGAIN....!!



Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Pletty
#129 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 9:40:00 AM
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There is no name (except the name of Jesus) given among men,through which we must be saved. Jesus is the name above all names. In the name of Jesus every knee shall bow every tongue,confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus is the Lord and He is the answer.

Pletty
Rassa
#130 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 11:32:00 AM
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@ Njunge

You have made my day..Let me repeat what you said...

There is only one God and his name is Yehova........'...and that's the bible not me.

At least we are together on this. There is only one God,call him Yehova,Elohim,Mungu or Allah. I hate fake gods and goddess.




We can draw lessons from the past,but we cannot live in it.
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