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Conversion of Christianity to Islam
anasazi
#111 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:01:00 AM
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What is religion? God does not require us to be religious! He requires that we have a relationship with Him!

Why is it that we are told in the judgement,when the sheep are seperated from the goats,that He will say unto them 'I never KNEW you,depart from me,ye that work iniquity'.

I am convinced that whether you call yourself a Muslim or a Christian (which nowadays is just a label),you need to realise the centrality of Jesus/ Issa Al Masih. By the way,I encourage all Muslims to read deeply in the Quran regarding the claims of the Quaran regarding Issa Al Massih. You will be SHOCKED.... Some of the claims the Quaran makes are contrary to what your Imam would have you believe. I will look for the references and post them here.

What I see from most of the posts in this discussion,is that many people actually believe that their works/ performance will land them in heaven. You are not aware that God,in Isaiah 64:4-9,says that your righteousness to Him is like filthy rags. In Romans 3:23,we are further told that ALL HAVE SINNED and fall short of the glory of God. This includes all the people you perceive as being infallible.

But there is hope! We are told in Ephesians 2:8-9 that:

It is by grace you have been saved,and this not of yourselves,it is the gift of God. NOT BY WORKS,so that NO MAN CAN BOAST.

If you could save yourselves by your good works (bowing 5 times a day,giving to the poor,attending church every Sunday) then it would be something to boast about! But God is not interested in your so called performance,because many of us do all these things and yet our hearts are far from Him! I have watched many Christians and Muslims adhere to set rules and regulations,yet their hearts are indeed far from HIM.

Well,I didnt mean to give a sermon here.....

God bless!
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Tutu
#112 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:15:00 AM
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@ Alphdot,

In the Bible there's no Book called Jacob!!! Get your facts right.

Ati Jacob 1: 19,3:9 Aiiiiii unless sijui

And Yes Jesus Conquered Death,He rose on the Third day and Sitteth on the Right Hand of God Our Father. Prince of Peace,He Lives and Reigns Forever more

Yesu weee nakupenda!!!




For me to live is Jesus Christ,to die is gain
AlphDoti
#113 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:19:00 AM
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@jacy26:

Trully,Jesus is alive. Correction noted.



@jitetee:

I like to answer what I'm able to answer correctly.

What I cannot,I will let others who are better placed to answer them.


The Accusation - Jihad is not killing. It's struggle. Others to clarify the accusations.

The Prosecutor's Evidence - I don't know. Those who followed this events keenly to comment.

The Defendant's Response - I don't understand this question.



@all:

As @ansazi has said,being religious without having a relationship with your creator is useless.

All along I have been trying to address @reiner's concerns.

Which is if I'm not wring,she is asking whether she's choosing the right vessel to travel on.



Religion is like a control. Just like the way clock control the operation of a computer.

Without the control a computer cannot function at all.

See,when we pray for example,we are reminded of our God.

That's when we reflect back to our hearts,actions,thoughts etc.

That's when we repent if we had erred.



Since we are sharing knowledge here,can we handle one thing at a time?

The Judaism,Christianity and Islam have full agreement over the fact that polytheism is condemned.

Why do some people call any one god other than the Almighty God?

Wendz
#114 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:26:00 AM
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In Iran,an 8 year boy was caught stealing bread in a market.
Imagine,he was made to lie on the ground,stretch out his poor little hands and they were held firmly on the ground. Then,a whole pickup was run over his hands amid his wailing and crying for mercy.

May be thats the bit i do not advocate for islam. some of the punishments can be very unrealistic. What much does a child that age know. fine,stealing is bad whatever age but crushing his hands under a massive truck is just absurd!! I wish i could post those photos here but its impossible.

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
Tutu
#115 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:40:00 AM
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@ anasazi i support you,Jesus said that we should not be like the Pharisees,preaching water and drinking wine ... and many more.

Guess Spirituality overules religiousness (my 2 cents)

But a Christian Damu!!!!

@ Alphdot thanks for the correction that Jesus lives! Amen! Where is Mohammed?


For me to live is Jesus Christ,to die is gain
Njunge
#116 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:40:00 AM
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Location: Nairobi
@Alpha,

You seem stuck with this one argument which by all means has no foundation.The bible is very clear,'There is only one God and his name is Jehovah (Not allah)'.........'For He so loved the world that He sent his begotten son'.......Clearly a son cannot be the father.

Now.Kindly confirm to us that allah was the god of the Quarish tribe.......and stop skirting around facts.....



Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
AlphDoti
#117 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:07:00 PM
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Location: Kenya
Jehovah is swahili name.

God is English name.

Allah is Arabic name.

We have african names as well.

Infact many people call Him baba,father,mungu etc.

I hope you don't have confusion in this as regards to names.



However,He is one,the Almighty.



I cannot confirm your question.

Where did you get this information? Is it authentic?

All I know is in Arabic,Allah means literally the one God.

I know it is easy for you to understand that different languages give the same thing different names.



I'm not stuck with this argument,we are sharing knowledge,I just want us to handle one thing at a time.



@wendz: that punishment for that kid is unrealistic.

I have not read the whole quran to confirm if such punishment is advocated.

Again,people do crazy things in the name of religion/culture.



@reiner: Islam is a monotheistic religion.



@all: Jesus is a monotheist. All other prophets of God were as well.
anasazi
#118 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:48:00 PM
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@Alphadoti... Pls go and research on what the Quran says about Issa... Please go with an open mind.

Also,I do not subscribe to the theory of Allah being an idol. Allah also come from the same root as the Hebrew word,Eloi.
Form is temporary, class is permanent
Njunge
#119 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 5:16:00 AM
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@Alpha,

Arabs were pagans before Islam and therefore basically polytheists.If there is any monotheism in Islam,it only came after Arabs heard about it from the Catholics of Babylon and Jews of Israel........While at it,take time and do some reading here.Quite a lengthy article but an eye opener..................Happy reading.

http://www.prophetofdoom...5_Can_Qusayy_Scam.Islam



Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Mainat
#120 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2009 5:42:00 AM
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Njung'e are you a lawyer? If you are not,I think you should consider a career in the same. I'd hope others are viewing Islam in a different way due to your posts on this thread.
Thanks

www.mjengakenya.blogspot.com
Sehemu ndio nyumba
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