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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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Hello Wazuans,
I visited Rongai and was really impressed at how things are changing fast. Is the above named offer a good deal?
Thanx in advance for your input.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Rapudox wrote:Hello Wazuans,
I visited Rongai and was really impressed at how things are changing fast. Is the above named offer a good deal?
Thanx in advance for your input.
Where is the bubble that People keep talking about. Land will always appreciate as Population Increases every day while land Continues to Diminish due to endless subdivisions. I was at the area about 4 or 5 years ago, though past Rangau Kidogo and refused to buy an acre for 500K, Found it too expensive. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Am wrote:Rapudox wrote:Hello Wazuans,
I visited Rongai and was really impressed at how things are changing fast. Is the above named offer a good deal?
Thanx in advance for your input.
Where is the bubble that People keep talking about. Land will always appreciate as Population Increases every day while land Continues to Diminish due to endless subdivisions. I was at the area about 4 or 5 years ago, though past Rangau Kidogo and refused to buy an acre for 500K, Found it too expensive. where is Rangau... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 745
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Was in rangau last year was to buy a quarter acre at 700k found it too expensive, now they have making the roads there, I'm sure the by now the Quarter would be over a Milli by now.
the place is growing impressively, must say, my paps bought land there mustve been in around 2004 and by then it was just a vast land full of tall grass and the rangau shrubs.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 297 Location: Nairobi
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Where exactly? 7km from magadi rd its ok further the price drops. As low as 1mil
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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maka wrote:Am wrote:Rapudox wrote:Hello Wazuans,
I visited Rongai and was really impressed at how things are changing fast. Is the above named offer a good deal?
Thanx in advance for your input.
Where is the bubble that People keep talking about. Land will always appreciate as Population Increases every day while land Continues to Diminish due to endless subdivisions. I was at the area about 4 or 5 years ago, though past Rangau Kidogo and refused to buy an acre for 500K, Found it too expensive. where is Rangau... Rongai, Past Nazarene. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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Am wrote:maka wrote:Am wrote:Rapudox wrote:Hello Wazuans,
I visited Rongai and was really impressed at how things are changing fast. Is the above named offer a good deal?
Thanx in advance for your input.
Where is the bubble that People keep talking about. Land will always appreciate as Population Increases every day while land Continues to Diminish due to endless subdivisions. I was at the area about 4 or 5 years ago, though past Rangau Kidogo and refused to buy an acre for 500K, Found it too expensive. where is Rangau... Rongai, Past Nazarene. Can also be accessed through Pipeline Road on the left before Whistling Thorns "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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on average nairobi suburbs appreciate at over 20% annually for land. As long as the land laws and tax regime remain the same, lets not expect any change. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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a4architect.com wrote:on average nairobi suburbs appreciate at over 20% annually for land. As long as the land laws and tax regime remain the same, lets not expect any change. @A4. Allow me to twist the thread a bit. Just read your Comments on Nation today, Regarding work rate of Our own Contractors versus the Chinese ones "Deadline beating has nothing to do with the Contractor. It is Just a matter of enforcing the Contract between the Contactor and client to ensure deadlines are met".I do not agree with you as we have seen so many white elephant projects especially roads where the contactor is purely to blame for **ups. Do you remember Ephraim mains's Kirinyaga Construction Company a few years ago? Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/22/2010 Posts: 510 Location: De egg
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Rapudox wrote:Hello Wazuans,
I visited Rongai and was really impressed at how things are changing fast. Is the above named offer a good deal?
Thanx in advance for your input.
@Rapudox are these the plots which were being sold by Railway Housing SACCO sometimes back in 2008?. Peace be with you
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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Am wrote:a4architect.com wrote:on average nairobi suburbs appreciate at over 20% annually for land. As long as the land laws and tax regime remain the same, lets not expect any change. @A4. Allow me to twist the thread a bit. Just read your Comments on Nation today, Regarding work rate of Our own Contractors versus the Chinese ones "Deadline beating has nothing to do with the Contractor. It is Just a matter of enforcing the Contract between the Contactor and client to ensure deadlines are met".I do not agree with you as we have seen so many white elephant projects especially roads where the contactor is purely to blame for **ups. Do you remember Ephraim mains's Kirinyaga Construction Company a few years ago? @am Check here on how a contract between client and contractor feels like. http://www.a4architect.c...sconstruction-contract/
From 1st hand experience, if clients eg Govt in case of roads do the below, there cant be problems in the actual construction. 1. client to liaise with consultant in selecting contractor. Contractor to have successfully completed project of same magintude in last 5 years. 2. Client and consultant to enforce contract to the letter. Contractor is only paid after completing works successfuly as per contract. With such mechanisms put in place, its virtually impossible for client to overpay or pay for dubstandard work. In Kenya, contract enforcement is not taken seriously . If a Kenyan contractor knows that contract will be enforced to the letter, believe me he will perform. If he knows that client has no capacity to enforce e.g if there are no/limited consultants to advice as usually is the case, contractor will not perform. I heard Hon Ngilu recently talking about blacklisting contractors. This is good since it helps in removing the non performing contractors from tendering. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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a4architect.com wrote:Am wrote:a4architect.com wrote:on average nairobi suburbs appreciate at over 20% annually for land. As long as the land laws and tax regime remain the same, lets not expect any change. @A4. Allow me to twist the thread a bit. Just read your Comments on Nation today, Regarding work rate of Our own Contractors versus the Chinese ones "Deadline beating has nothing to do with the Contractor. It is Just a matter of enforcing the Contract between the Contactor and client to ensure deadlines are met".I do not agree with you as we have seen so many white elephant projects especially roads where the contactor is purely to blame for **ups. Do you remember Ephraim mains's Kirinyaga Construction Company a few years ago? @am Check here on how a contract between client and contractor feels like. http://www.a4architect.c...sconstruction-contract/
From 1st hand experience, if clients eg Govt in case of roads do the below, there cant be problems in the actual construction. 1. client to liaise with consultant in selecting contractor. Contractor to have successfully completed project of same magintude in last 5 years. 2. Client and consultant to enforce contract to the letter. Contractor is only paid after completing works successfuly as per contract. With such mechanisms put in place, its virtually impossible for client to overpay or pay for dubstandard work. In Kenya, contract enforcement is not taken seriously . If a Kenyan contractor knows that contract will be enforced to the letter, believe me he will perform. If he knows that client has no capacity to enforce e.g if there are no/limited consultants to advice as usually is the case, contractor will not perform. I heard Hon Ngilu recently talking about blacklisting contractors. This is good since it helps in removing the non performing contractors from tendering. @A4. I get you. above makes sense. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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@Maligumu, no, these are not SACCO plots. The owner is a Masai resident.
There is some news that Kajiado has stopped all land transX. Can anybody confirm this?
How serious is this thing of double allocation in Kajiado???
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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Am wrote:a4architect.com wrote:Am wrote:a4architect.com wrote:on average nairobi suburbs appreciate at over 20% annually for land. As long as the land laws and tax regime remain the same, lets not expect any change. @A4. Allow me to twist the thread a bit. Just read your Comments on Nation today, Regarding work rate of Our own Contractors versus the Chinese ones "Deadline beating has nothing to do with the Contractor. It is Just a matter of enforcing the Contract between the Contactor and client to ensure deadlines are met".I do not agree with you as we have seen so many white elephant projects especially roads where the contactor is purely to blame for **ups. Do you remember Ephraim mains's Kirinyaga Construction Company a few years ago? @am Check here on how a contract between client and contractor feels like. http://www.a4architect.c...sconstruction-contract/
From 1st hand experience, if clients eg Govt in case of roads do the below, there cant be problems in the actual construction. 1. client to liaise with consultant in selecting contractor. Contractor to have successfully completed project of same magintude in last 5 years. 2. Client and consultant to enforce contract to the letter. Contractor is only paid after completing works successfuly as per contract. With such mechanisms put in place, its virtually impossible for client to overpay or pay for dubstandard work. In Kenya, contract enforcement is not taken seriously . If a Kenyan contractor knows that contract will be enforced to the letter, believe me he will perform. If he knows that client has no capacity to enforce e.g if there are no/limited consultants to advice as usually is the case, contractor will not perform. I heard Hon Ngilu recently talking about blacklisting contractors. This is good since it helps in removing the non performing contractors from tendering. @A4. I get you. above makes sense. @am. Noted. Currently we are having all sorts of people proliferating the construction industry and offering sub standard management services. If Kenyans agree to procure project management services from architects,qs and engineers, problems in management will be completely resolved. These people know how to interpret construction agreements and laws like the back of their hands. Its for this reason that the default dispute resolution for construction projects is arbitration as opposed to litigation. Its assumed that a fellow qs,arch or eng has more knowledge of construction related law than the average magistrate/judge hence will offer the best solution. Check the standard agreement here http://www.a4architect.c...ion-contract-agreement/
For the average magistrate to read through and inteprate logicaly, its a daunting task. For the average arch,qs, eng, they understand it like the back of their hand. Litigation comes after arbitration once things get out of hand. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/6/2010 Posts: 242
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Was in Rangau yesterday, the landscape has changed with so may residents dotting the savanna. The roads are still a not the best though but efforts by KERRA and residents to grade the roads are evident.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 280
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this the catch with rangau. it is actually called oloosirkon. the best value yu can get anywhere near nairobi now. distance from CBD 25kms. cheaper than ronga. turnoff is before ronga. shorter distance than CBD to kitengela > 36km. Acre bordering park is 7m. As you move away from park 4m to 2.5m to 1.5m in sholinke. Road between kite an ronga to be done. DOH
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 280
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a4achitect. You are very right. my auntie lost 2m for not using professionals. hope i get time to share with wazuzu the details kesho. DOH
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