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Kibaki on Africa varsities
McReggae
#41 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:21:58 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
sepuku, good analysis of my postings. There are fellows who contribute ideas. Then there are guys who usually have little or no input. As a leader of such status, you are expected to give speeches on almost anything: economy, education, health, breastfeeding, nuclear power, insect research, family planning- even things you have no opinion on. So for some you may have ideas, for others you rely totally on speech writer. Kibaki, i believe, has a lot of reliance on speech writers. He has not been the same since that day when he was coming from Machakos.


WORD!Applause Applause Applause .....Sometimes you can see Obama giving great speeches on different topics and wonder how a man could know so much.....answer iko hapo juu!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
harrydre
#42 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:22:10 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
freiks wrote:
http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Varsities-must-search-for-solutions-to-poverty/-/440808/1939292/-/item/0/-/2ar6yk/-/index.html

I didnt know this old man could write such an inspiring documents, seems its true that old is gold.

Any article by Raila?


RAO name has to feature everywhere in everything?
Laughing out loudly

I also expected some articles from him as he has even been a lecturer at The, although no student is on record as having been taught by him and the students who saw him attest to the fact that RAO was seen loitering around the laboratory corridors and in the laboratories cleaning bunsen burners.


Laughing out loudly LOL after all the man claims to be an equal of Obako so it's only fair we compare apples with apples Laughing out loudly


jaggernaut wrote:
King G wrote:
In Support of @Angelica. So you guys want us to believe that the Kibaki the one we all know wrote this article. Pleazeee, jeeezeee give me a break. He was definately assisted big time. Honestly apart from this piece, when was the last time you read from HIM. FYI - my goggles are as thick as the JKIA smoke today at 5am.

Let us not praise things for the sake of it. Ati Kibaki the Scholar, ash yawa tho. Hata kama everything tyranny is good, uolowa!


Yaani you are saying that kibaki, a Masters graduate of the London School of Economics and former lecturer/scholar at Makerere University doesn't have the capacity to write such an article?


ditto! The man is a genius
i.am.back!!!!
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#43 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:17:28 AM
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What about the ideas presented in the speech?
seppuku
#44 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 7:55:55 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
sepuku, good analysis of my postings. There are fellows who contribute ideas. Then there are guys who usually have little or no input. As a leader of such status, you are expected to give speeches on almost anything: economy, education, health, breastfeeding, nuclear power, insect research, family planning- even things you have no opinion on. So for some you may have ideas, for others you rely totally on speech writer. Kibaki, i believe, has a lot of reliance on speech writers. He has not been the same since that day when he was coming from Machakos.


@Lolest!, sikatai. But the article in question is not about neuroendoscopy. No. It is about African universities and leadership. If a former lecturer and president wouldn't know that, tell me who would.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
Lolest!
#45 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:09:06 AM
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@sepuku, the 2002 accident. I have stated that so many times. I remember Kibaki giving an unwritten speech in western around 2004. It was about education. Encouraging students to continue with studies, he said: '..muendelee, muendelee std 6,7,8,9,10...' . When govt records get de-classified in 2043, utaskia maneno
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
McReggae
#46 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:44:55 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
@sepuku, the 2002 accident. I have stated that so many times. I remember Kibaki giving an unwritten speech in western around 2004. It was about education. Encouraging students to continue with studies, he said: '..muendelee, muendelee std 6,7,8,9,10...' . When govt records get de-classified in 2043, utaskia maneno


Hahahaha.....std 6,7,8,9,10.....bluetooth kweli aliandika.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
King G
#47 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:41:02 AM
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You will see many of such articles as he tries to please Mo' foundation (his honchos need the money). Who talked of self actualization again? there it is.
Thieves
Siringi
#48 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 9:21:09 AM
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@Laughing out loudly Ubaks was right and you are wrong. A bit of history of our education system. . .

Young boys esp those not very good at herding used to be rounded up by DO and colonial chief and sent to school. The aim was to create literate karanis for th colonial gava
Basic education was up to class 4 at which level they sat a common entrance exam. Graduates at this level were employed as teachers and clerks!

The bright ones and those whose parents had more cows were sent to intermediate school for class 5,6,7 and 8. Here there was an exam my history forgets the name. With an intermediate certificate you were eligible for a serious gava job

then there was junior secondary and since most africans could not pronounce bomu wani (form 1) they simply said one has gone to class nine with form 2 being referred to as class 10 . At the end of juniour sec there was KJCSE.holders of these certificates were serious honchos.

The choices were employment or proceeding to clas 11 and 12 i hope you get the drift forms 3 and 4. No need for telling your the cambridge graduates at grade 12 are some of the most prominent kenian scholars and founding fathers.

Others proceeded to A-levels then Makerere Dar-Esalam or The UoN. Wengine went majuu

Kefake is a brilliant scholar and academic . He taught at Makerere after LSE . As finance and planning minister he penned serious sessional papers that defined the development agenda of our young nation.

The people who did not go to scholl or chew books properly ni kinana nanii. . . I will put the rink and shame them


Lolest! wrote:
@sepuku, the 2002 accident. I have stated that so many times. I remember Kibaki giving an unwritten speech in western around 2004. It was about education. Encouraging students to continue with studies, he said: '..muendelee, muendelee std 6,7,8,9,10...' . When govt records get de-classified in 2043, utaskia maneno

"πŸ˜–πŸ˜‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Lolest!
#49 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 10:57:50 AM
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@siringi, I don't dispute that Kibaki is a bright guy. But, after the 02 accident he's not been the same. I doubt a man who was in govt when the system changed to 8-4-4 doesn't know how the structure is now
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Siringi
#50 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 11:42:08 AM
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@Laughing out loudly you miss the point in some bunduz like where yours truly comes from todate we refer form as class 9 form 4 as class 12. Ask around Ubaks was right the more things change the more they remain the same.

The proposed reforms to 8-4-4 will take us back to the seventies. They only need to make the following important subjects mandatory examinable for faster attainment of vision 2030
Agriculture
art and crafts metalwork n woodwork workshop
home science
music
business edu
econ

some wazuans are sayin whoz that

Lolest! wrote:
@siringi, I don't dispute that Kibaki is a bright guy. But, after the 02 accident he's not been the same. I doubt a man who was in govt when the system changed to 8-4-4 doesn't know how the structure is now

"πŸ˜–πŸ˜‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Siringi
#51 Posted : Friday, August 09, 2013 5:10:29 PM
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Twas tis man -Prof Ouma Muga Former Rangwe MP . . .and the Ozone conference


What akina Oyugi did to him even if he(muga) was bragging about it at his local after a few lagers sio vizuri wapi TJRC? Awe compensated pap.

rink Prof. Ouma Muga tribulations

hiyo bluetooth Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly was a dead giveaway

Lolest! wrote:
@seppuku, such people have speechwriters. Like that Wang'ombe chic for UK. Remember Moi getting a standing ovation for a speech on environment in an international forum? Then he came back to authorize the raping of forests. The speech writer will write it, the big man reviews(not all do), suggest changes(mainly ideas, not words) na kazi kwisha. Why spend time thinking about speeches? Give the ideas and the speechwriter will come up with the details. Seriously, do you think Kefake could include the word bluetooth in a speech? Laughing out loudly

"πŸ˜–πŸ˜‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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#52 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:36:46 AM
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