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Fire at JKIA
McReggae
#261 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:27:14 PM
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McReggae
#262 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:13:18 PM
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....17 hours later, there is still some fire at JKIA!!!
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harrydre
#263 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:23:43 PM
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McReggae wrote:
....17 hours later, there is still some fire at JKIA!!!



WTH now this is suspicious
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McReggae
#264 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:25:37 PM
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harrydre wrote:
McReggae wrote:
....17 hours later, there is still some fire at JKIA!!!



WTH now this is suspicious


Willis Raburu has just been reporting live......and some fire is still being fought, they are hoping that by kesho all the smoke would have gone!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
murchr
#265 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:47:47 PM
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ZZE123 wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
murchr wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
And the KQ losses will continueSad Sad Sad


There's a diff btn KQ and KAA Wazuans should be more educated on this Shame on you


I think majority know the difference, what they guy is implying here is that when KAA is affected like this, KQ is definitely affected..it might have a greater impact than when KQ is affected, KAA might not be as affected...

@murchr - Passengers being diverted means KQ pays for hotels etc. Flights not taking off means lost revenue for KQ. Remember KQ has the highest number of flights landing/ departing from JKIA. An yes I know the difference between KQ and KAAShame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you .


The reason why i am disputing the "loss" issue is because KQ has insurance which would definitely cover this inconvenience.
Airline insurance covers, Public Liability Insurance, Passenger Liability Insurance- this covers the hotel issue, etc. Its very likely KQ has also cover to compensate for lost business in such an eventuality where they have to land elsewhere. So this is a loss that will be passed to a third party, I however would like to know who is the insurer. KAA on the other hand will have to compensate all airlines that were to land and depart from JKIA for lost business, they might even pay for the hotels etc. Without insurance no airline would be operating at a profit in this world.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Chaka
#266 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:57:43 PM
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Can someone post the names and positions of the management and senior management at the KAA?
OleSuo
#267 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:03:06 PM
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I can't wait to watch this fire saga on XYZ show.
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butterflyke
#268 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:05:18 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Can someone post the names and positions of the management and senior management at the KAA?


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McReggae
#269 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:17:30 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Can someone post the names and positions of the management and senior management at the KAA?


BOARD of Directors:
PROF. MUTUMA MUGAMBI - Chairman

Members
MR. KULOW HASSAN
MR. GABRIEL KIVUTI
MS. BEATRICE GATHIRWA
MR. ISAAC KAMAU
MR. CHRISTOPHER OMBEGA
MR. DANIEL NDEGE

Management Team:ENG. STEPHEN GICHUKI - Managing Director
MR. MATTHEW WAMALWA - Deputy Managing Director
MR. JOHN THUMBI - General Manager - Finance
MS. LUCY MBUGUA - General Manager - Marketing & Business Development
MR. KEN KAUNDA - General Manager - Human Resources Development
MR. ERIC KIRAITHE - General Manager - Security Services
MR. ALLAN MUTURI - General Manager - Procurement and Logistics
MR. KASAINE OLE PERTET - General Manager - ICT
MR. SAMSON KIMILU - General Manager-Risk Management and Internal Audit
ENG. PHILEMON CHAMWADA - General Manager - Projects and Engineering Services
MR. EDWARD KOBUTHI - Airport Manager JKIA
MR. YATICH KANGUGO - Airport Manager Moi International Airport
MR. HENRY OGOYE - Head of Corporate Planning
MR. DOMINIC NGIGI - Head of Corporate Affairs
MR. EDWARD KOBUTHI - Airport Manager JKIA


..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
harrydre
#270 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:27:17 PM
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murchr wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
murchr wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
And the KQ losses will continueSad Sad Sad


There's a diff btn KQ and KAA Wazuans should be more educated on this Shame on you


I think majority know the difference, what they guy is implying here is that when KAA is affected like this, KQ is definitely affected..it might have a greater impact than when KQ is affected, KAA might not be as affected...

@murchr - Passengers being diverted means KQ pays for hotels etc. Flights not taking off means lost revenue for KQ. Remember KQ has the highest number of flights landing/ departing from JKIA. An yes I know the difference between KQ and KAAShame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you .


The reason why i am disputing the "loss" issue is because KQ has insurance which would definitely cover this inconvenience.
Airline insurance covers, Public Liability Insurance, Passenger Liability Insurance- this covers the hotel issue, etc. Its very likely KQ has also cover to compensate for lost business in such an eventuality where they have to land elsewhere. So this is a loss that will be passed to a third party, I however would like to know who is the insurer. KAA on the other hand will have to compensate all airlines that were to land and depart from JKIA for lost business, they might even pay for the hotels etc. Without insurance no airline would be operating at a profit in this world.


okay so I was about to book a KQ flight to Msa or Entebbe but this incident happens so I decide to take the train or bus. So will KQ file a claim with insurance co. for the 'lost' business that I would have given them?
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murchr
#271 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:39:32 PM
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harrydre wrote:
murchr wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
murchr wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
And the KQ losses will continueSad Sad Sad


There's a diff btn KQ and KAA Wazuans should be more educated on this Shame on you


I think majority know the difference, what they guy is implying here is that when KAA is affected like this, KQ is definitely affected..it might have a greater impact than when KQ is affected, KAA might not be as affected...

@murchr - Passengers being diverted means KQ pays for hotels etc. Flights not taking off means lost revenue for KQ. Remember KQ has the highest number of flights landing/ departing from JKIA. An yes I know the difference between KQ and KAAShame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you .


The reason why i am disputing the "loss" issue is because KQ has insurance which would definitely cover this inconvenience.
Airline insurance covers, Public Liability Insurance, Passenger Liability Insurance- this covers the hotel issue, etc. Its very likely KQ has also cover to compensate for lost business in such an eventuality where they have to land elsewhere. So this is a loss that will be passed to a third party, I however would like to know who is the insurer. KAA on the other hand will have to compensate all airlines that were to land and depart from JKIA for lost business, they might even pay for the hotels etc. Without insurance no airline would be operating at a profit in this world.


okay so I was about to book a KQ flight to Msa or Entebbe but this incident happens so I decide to take the train or bus. So will KQ file a claim with insurance co. for the 'lost' business that I would have given them?


Yes, thats why KAA has to make sure they solve the issue fast!
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kysse
#272 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:54:03 PM
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harrydre wrote:

okay so I was about to book a KQ flight to Msa or Entebbe but this incident happens so I decide to take the train or bus. So will KQ file a claim with insurance co. for the 'lost' business that I would have given them?


ai,where's proof of contract between you and kq? hapo hakuna kesi.lol


newfarer
#273 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:01:00 PM
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sad ): poleni wakenya. though Nairobi hotels are full. methali.(
Ganda la muwa la jana chungu
kaona kivuno. The skin of yesterday's
sugarcane is a havest to an ant)
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D32
#274 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:28:45 PM
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On the brighter side, hope that we'll get a new modern airport. It doesn't feel good good being greeted with JKIA, as it was, after arriving from a modern, foreign, international airport.
They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
harrydre
#275 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:39:04 PM
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D32 wrote:
On the brighter side, hope that we'll get a new modern airport. It doesn't feel good good being greeted with JKIA, as it was, after arriving from a modern, foreign, international airport.


:) agreed. especially that area that burnt down. you could just smell dirt as you lined up @ immigration. The AC has also never worked. Sad
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harrydre
#276 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:41:56 PM
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kysse wrote:
harrydre wrote:

okay so I was about to book a KQ flight to Msa or Entebbe but this incident happens so I decide to take the train or bus. So will KQ file a claim with insurance co. for the 'lost' business that I would have given them?


ai,where's proof of contract between you and kq? hapo hakuna kesi.lol




That's the point. I am trying to show @murchr how KQ is loosing coz of such incident but he insists that's insurable. If I had booked but KQ was unable to transport me and I claimed a refund, that's another story.
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Sansa
#277 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:42:36 PM
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So since there were no sprinklers, or smoke alarms or watchful askaris, should we assume that they also won't have any security footage to look at?
murchr
#278 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:47:04 PM
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harrydre wrote:
kysse wrote:
harrydre wrote:

okay so I was about to book a KQ flight to Msa or Entebbe but this incident happens so I decide to take the train or bus. So will KQ file a claim with insurance co. for the 'lost' business that I would have given them?


ai,where's proof of contract between you and kq? hapo hakuna kesi.lol




That's the point. I am trying to show @murchr how KQ is loosing coz of such incident but he insists that's insurable. If I had booked but KQ was unable to transport me and I claimed a refund, that's another story.


If I was KQ and in a normal day I operate 20 departures but because you couldnt facilitate that as per our earlier agreement then you should compensate me for the loss incurred. Its business hakuna kuongea mingi.

The agreement is btwn KQ and KAA and not you the pariah traveler. You the traveller with no contractual agreement with KQ can get yourself alternative arrangement.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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harrydre
#279 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:49:55 PM
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Sansa wrote:
So since there were no sprinklers, or smoke alarms or watchful askaris, should we assume that they also won't have any security footage to look at?


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murchr
#280 Posted : Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:14:08 AM
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McReggae wrote:
harrydre wrote:
McReggae wrote:
....17 hours later, there is still some fire at JKIA!!!



WTH now this is suspicious


Willis Raburu has just been reporting live......and some fire is still being fought, they are hoping that by kesho all the smoke would have gone!!!!


Apparently the fire is still on and spreading...What is going on?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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