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Fire at JKIA
Impunity
#221 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:35:15 PM
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harrydre wrote:
CLK wrote:
Impunity wrote:
matata wrote:
No weapon formed aganist Kenya shall prevail. The devil is a lier. Funny how some kenyans r celebrating ati cz VIP lounge imechomoka Sad na sisi wote tutalipa through tax! we are our own enemies!!!! And the vip lounges are as good as they have been.
ION Duty free shops hazikuchomeka. those r speculations.


So we still have duty free shops remaining? Who is your source of bulletin?
d'oh! d'oh!


@Impunity, wacha kuchezea watu, you know very well where the duty free shops are/used to be and where the arrivals is...


So what part exactly burned down? If it's the immigration area, then I would not expect the duty free shops to have burnt down neither the vip lounges. Probably baggage area. Let's see what the investigations will reveal a simple baggage could have caused this.

This clearly shows we are not prepared to handle any disasters.


Duty free shops are not there, so nothing to burn there but empty spaces.

The fire started near the immigration area and quickly spread International arrival building!

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masukuma
#222 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:49:40 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Funny Kenyans:


SELL IT!!
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#223 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:05:08 PM
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CS Eng Kamau is a real serious guy. He seems to have grabbed his jacket immediately he got the news and left for the Airport. Other chaps seems to have taken time to dress, exercise and grab their ipads. Kudos Eng Kamau.
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murchr
#224 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:10:19 PM
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Impunity wrote:
CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES...Burn the airport so that we can delay travelling there!!!!!!!!

Sad Sad Sad


Nikama airport ni moja Kenya, hapo haujafikiria boss...but do you?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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harrydre
#225 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:13:11 PM
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Impunity wrote:
harrydre wrote:
CLK wrote:
Impunity wrote:
matata wrote:
No weapon formed aganist Kenya shall prevail. The devil is a lier. Funny how some kenyans r celebrating ati cz VIP lounge imechomoka Sad na sisi wote tutalipa through tax! we are our own enemies!!!! And the vip lounges are as good as they have been.
ION Duty free shops hazikuchomeka. those r speculations.


So we still have duty free shops remaining? Who is your source of bulletin?
d'oh! d'oh!


@Impunity, wacha kuchezea watu, you know very well where the duty free shops are/used to be and where the arrivals is...


So what part exactly burned down? If it's the immigration area, then I would not expect the duty free shops to have burnt down neither the vip lounges. Probably baggage area. Let's see what the investigations will reveal a simple baggage could have caused this.

This clearly shows we are not prepared to handle any disasters.


Duty free shops are not there, so nothing to burn there but empty spaces.

The fire started near the immigration area and quickly spread International arrival building!



ok. so can we conclude that chinedu got denied access to the country and decided to bring down the house? smile
i.am.back!!!!
murchr
#226 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:17:30 PM
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InnovateGuy wrote:
Strategic planning and risk management: Maybe, we need a second international airport in Nairobi or somewhere close to Nairobi. Again, maybe, Nairobi County needs at least three firefighting helicopters.



When there was talk about having an airport in Konza, Wazuans were here up in arms to prove that Konza is very near to Nrb bla bla...see the inconvinienced caused now...people are flying to Msa so that they can re-route to Nrb kesho.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#227 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:22:40 PM
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ZZE123 wrote:
And the KQ losses will continueSad Sad Sad


There's a diff btn KQ and KAA Wazuans should be more educated on this Shame on you
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#228 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:32:40 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Perfect evacuation with no casualty!!!!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Still defending JKIA verses Oga International airport


I'm just wondering how this was possible while the fire raged for more than 4hrs....you get my drift now??


Everyone including those who are supposed to fight the fire just watched. If this was a plane...no one would have been rescued
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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nostoppingthis
#229 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:35:30 PM
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murchr wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
And the KQ losses will continueSad Sad Sad


There's a diff btn KQ and KAA Wazuans should be more educated on this Shame on you


I think majority know the difference, what they guy is implying here is that when KAA is affected like this, KQ is definitely affected..it might have a greater impact than when KQ is affected, KAA might not be as affected...
madollar
#230 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:51:34 PM
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freiks wrote:
Mutahi Ngunyi rubbing it on the twitter

he seems to think someone is out to sabotage uhuru goverment can kenyans go to the extremes of burning down an international airport to settle political scores .... its either terrorism or an accident
theman192000
#231 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:52:33 PM
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My understanding of how a fire starts is via a spark. So unless it was an explosion (which no one has reported) then it must have been a small fire before it became a big fire.

A credible source who were about to depart from the airport on an international flight confirmed to me that initially there was smoke and no one seemed worried and they continued to be processed. So the question is why at this stage airport personnel did not contain the fire.

In your own home if there is a fire, the first response would be to try and contain the fire yourself NOT call the fire brigade. So the question of why only one fire truck was sent is because the other 4 were on standby at the runway as per international air travel regulations.

My source did not fly out but reported that security officers were involved in looting and not trying to put out the fire. Further to this the sprinkler system did not release any water.
murchr
#232 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:53:13 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
murchr wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
And the KQ losses will continueSad Sad Sad


There's a diff btn KQ and KAA Wazuans should be more educated on this Shame on you


I think majority know the difference, what they guy is implying here is that when KAA is affected like this, KQ is definitely affected..it might have a greater impact than when KQ is affected, KAA might not be as affected...


KQ is landing in Msa then routing its international flight guys to the domestic terminal. Is JKIA insured?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#233 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:54:46 PM
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madollar wrote:
freiks wrote:
Mutahi Ngunyi rubbing it on the twitter

he seems to think someone is out to sabotage uhuru goverment can kenyans go to the extremes of burning down an international airport to settle political scores .... its either terrorism or an accident


I dont think he think its sabotage, but rather incompetence. And I agree with him...he has to get tough, this should not have happened at ALL
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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limanika
#234 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:57:06 PM
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The president looked so helpless on Camera I pity us. Reminds me how vain man is – despite all the power, he could do nothing…
On a separate issue, it is time they expedited the construction of Greenfield terminal with state of the art fire fighting systems including sprinklers. Most of JKIA is beyond redemption, the airport was built when fire fighting regulations were a bit lax and there are no sprinklers within the buildings – and you can’t easily put that up when terminal is under occupation.
Finally, how did someone manage to take explosives all the way despite the massive security? KAA need to answer this quiz, or otherwise tell us exactly what caused the fire and how they will prevent such in future - so we can be confident that remaining units 1-3 are safe. This is the most important thing for me right now.
keraka
#235 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:57:44 PM
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murchr wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Perfect evacuation with no casualty!!!!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Still defending JKIA verses Oga International airport


I'm just wondering how this was possible while the fire raged for more than 4hrs....you get my drift now??


Everyone including those who are supposed to fight the fire just watched. If this was a plane...no one would have been rescued


That was the most disgusting act in the whole episode.
The Security guys were so alert guarding the burning building.Ok may be they wanted to keep looters at bay.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Impunity
#236 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:58:41 PM
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theman192000 wrote:
My understanding of how a fire starts is via a spark. So unless it was an explosion (which no one has reported) then it must have been a small fire before it became a big fire.

A credible source who were about to depart from the airport on an international flight confirmed to me that initially there was smoke and no one seemed worried and they continued to be processed. So the question is why at this stage airport personnel did not contain the fire.

In your own home if there is a fire, the first response would be to try and contain the fire yourself NOT call the fire brigade. So the question of why only one fire truck was sent is because the other 4 were on standby at the runway as per international air travel regulations.

My source did not fly out but reported that security officers were involved in looting and not trying to put out the fire. Further to this the sprinkler system did not release any water.


Ditto!!
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#237 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:06:50 PM
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theman192000 wrote:
My understanding of how a fire starts is via a spark. So unless it was an explosion (which no one has reported) then it must have been a small fire before it became a big fire.

A credible source who were about to depart from the airport on an international flight confirmed to me that initially there was smoke and no one seemed worried and they continued to be processed. So the question is why at this stage airport personnel did not contain the fire.

In your own home if there is a fire, the first response would be to try and contain the fire yourself NOT call the fire brigade. So the question of why only one fire truck was sent is because the other 4 were on standby at the runway as per international air travel regulations.

My source did not fly out but reported that security officers were involved in looting and not trying to put out the fire. Further to this the sprinkler system did not release any water.


This is probably the case, the fact that there were no casualties implies that the fire spread leisurely through the building while the KAA and security personell ignored it thinking its not their responsibility or were napping to conserve their strength for their daytime side hassles.

If I were the president/CS I would fire most of KAA management and yesterdays entire night shift.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
McReggae
#238 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:08:50 PM
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Impunity wrote:
theman192000 wrote:
My understanding of how a fire starts is via a spark. So unless it was an explosion (which no one has reported) then it must have been a small fire before it became a big fire.

A credible source who were about to depart from the airport on an international flight confirmed to me that initially there was smoke and no one seemed worried and they continued to be processed. So the question is why at this stage airport personnel did not contain the fire.

In your own home if there is a fire, the first response would be to try and contain the fire yourself NOT call the fire brigade. So the question of why only one fire truck was sent is because the other 4 were on standby at the runway as per international air travel regulations.

My source did not fly out but reported that security officers were involved in looting and not trying to put out the fire. Further to this the sprinkler system did not release any water.


Ditto!!


Those ones are always when escorting thd VVIP......
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#239 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:19:05 PM
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murchr wrote:
madollar wrote:
freiks wrote:
Mutahi Ngunyi rubbing it on the twitter

he seems to think someone is out to sabotage uhuru goverment can kenyans go to the extremes of burning down an international airport to settle political scores .... its either terrorism or an accident


I dont think he think its sabotage, but rather incompetence. And I agree with him...he has to get tough, this should not have happened at ALL


Our own @Tycho beats Mutahi Ngunyi pants down in what he tries to be doing best.....being anstract.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
theman192000
#240 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:19:42 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
theman192000 wrote:
My understanding of how a fire starts is via a spark. So unless it was an explosion (which no one has reported) then it must have been a small fire before it became a big fire.

A credible source who were about to depart from the airport on an international flight confirmed to me that initially there was smoke and no one seemed worried and they continued to be processed. So the question is why at this stage airport personnel did not contain the fire.

In your own home if there is a fire, the first response would be to try and contain the fire yourself NOT call the fire brigade. So the question of why only one fire truck was sent is because the other 4 were on standby at the runway as per international air travel regulations.

My source did not fly out but reported that security officers were involved in looting and not trying to put out the fire. Further to this the sprinkler system did not release any water.


Ditto!!


Those ones are always when escorting thd VVIP......


Don't forget showering new planes like when KQ finally gets its dreamliners...
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