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KQ up,up & away
VituVingiSana
#101 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 8:38:00 AM
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Down 0.25 to 36... I am holding on... coz I am confident that KQ will manage OK in this half. The NAV is 42 as of 30 Sep 2009. So at least it should get there...

30 Nov to 30 May = 6 months left to release of results
42(NAV) less 36(current price) = 6/-
6/36 = 16.6%

I can live with a 16.6% return in 6 months...

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Moibutu
#102 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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Are there other markets where the market behaves like at NSE? The prices are so eratic!! While l was in school l remember something like market effiencies in some categories. One of the categories the market could include reflect information known to few people in the market. l think this is the case at NSE. Otherwise,removing the usual explanation of deman and supply how do you explaing almost 100% gain in this share within 2 weeks?

die trying
mv ufanisi
#103 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 8:48:00 AM
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Was on KQ flight which was fully booked yesterday. They've improved on time performance. As the WC draws near the hype on this share will only increase. So maybe I should buy more now?
cnn
#104 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 9:10:00 AM
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Just seen my sell order @ 34.75 executed,a 22% gain nett of commisions,too much supply coming so i am going to wait lower or snap up NBK,its slowly simmering behind the scenes.

see it through my lens?
Mali
#105 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 9:28:00 AM
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The damn thing is down to 33!!!! lol.. sold at 32... let me hope it drops to 29... please Captain lets land now.. YES!!!

if the incompetent and the reckless compete,the result is a disaster.. MN
VituVingiSana
#106 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 9:53:00 AM
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LOL... I walk away kidogo... and Neveready is up 10% while KQ is down to 33.50...

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
bushy
#107 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 9:56:00 AM
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just saw a story on CNBC where rumour mills have it that KQ could be considering buying out ET. Maybe some people might be well aware of such goings on and hence the strange unexplained rise in this stock. But being rumours at the moment I'm tempted to try and figure out whether this could be possible and if it is whether it makes business sense. My two cents,this might just remain to be nothing but rumours my reasons being:

1. last time I checked ET was not up for sale instead it has been pushing Kq's luck in the acquisition of smaller carriers on the continent,like their recent acquisition of Virgin Nigeria when KQ was courting Eagles. Ethiopia's greatest national symbol is not even its athletics stars but rather their national carrier. Ask ET pilots what happened to them when they tried to leave their jobs for greener pastures in drones. The government declared them national assets and as such if one opted to leave their job for another airline they would lose their citizenship. The ET government has pumped filthy sums of money in this company over the last couple of years just to keep it afloat and I doubt they would give in just as their efforts seem to be bearing fruit with the recent turn in the company's fortunes. This does not sound like a country willing to forfeit such a symbol.

besides while KQ has been struggling in recent years ET seems to be rediscovering itself and I almost find it laughable that KQ with its declining cash reserves would be considering acquiring a company much larger than itself. In my opinion a quick look at its changing balance sheet in the last three years might not be convincing enough for financiers to lend it the kind of money to pull such a feat,atleast not in the short term. If anyone has followed recent acquisitions and mergers in the industry they will agree with me that even if this was in the making,such arrangements take years to conclude and until they are almost finalised are kept under sworn secrecy.

But then again there might be some truth in all this,anyone with any info about it?




jer 29:11
VituVingiSana
#108 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 10:39:00 AM
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Ethiopian is state-owned (yet in a surprising way... left alone to do their thing... no political interference... professionally run... and they make profits!) and the PRIDE of Ethiopians... thus highly unlikely to be sold to KQ. You have already pointed that out...

Now... maybe Ethiopian might want to buy KQ (or rather take a stake in KQ)... I do not know BUT I think ET buying into KQ is far more likely... but does ET have the cash?

A merger of sorts would be nice... since they compete in the same markets. A merger would cut excess capacity,give them 2 hubs & dominate the East+Central African market. Or they should code-share to cut costs & competition...

KQ has a code-share with Nigerian Eagle... must have been a close fight with ET. I am sure you know Nigerian Eagle is the former VN.

VA is looking to sell 49% but who will buy? Nigerians are notoriously difficult to do business with... Ask Achieng ;-)

Where is the link to the CNBC story?

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mlefu
#109 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 4:53:09 PM
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back to 30...the american politics on world economy..the dubai effect i guess
Seles83
#110 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:09:12 AM
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Foreign investor are notably absent from the show....the counter now driven by local investors..
More monies, more problems...
Pierce
#111 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:28:38 AM
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It's a good buy @ 30 i believe
Seles83
#112 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:35:09 AM
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Yep...i still believe it is far from book value..
More monies, more problems...
VituVingiSana
#113 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01:23 PM
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Hmmm... I look at the prices but it was at 32.75... Did I miss an opportunity to buy more at 30/-?
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VituVingiSana
#114 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:47:47 PM
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@bushy - I have heard the rumors as well... re: KQ buying a stake in ET... (though unlikely... but where there is smoke there may b a fire)

Can someone confirm where this rumor started?
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VituVingiSana
#115 Posted : Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:04:13 AM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601116&sid=ae3eMx5ufUjA

KQ was laughed at when it bid for Air Tanzania but KQ bought 49% of smaller airline (Precision Air).

2009 - Air Tanzania is almost dead while Precision Air is #1 in Tanzania.
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ecstacy
#116 Posted : Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:44:52 PM
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@VVS
"Very soon, Kenya Airways plans to fly to Jeddah in Saudi Arabia, Juba in Southern Sudan,Ouagadougou in Burkina Faso and Luanda in Anola opening up more opportunities for Africa to grow." - Ref SUNDAY NATION December 20, 2009 Pg 23.
VituVingiSana
#117 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:17:52 AM
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@ectasy - jeddah is like a once/year deal during Ramadan. I think.

Juba - That is a market that need to be exploited! I understand the airport in Juba does not meet KQ's standards (sorta why they had stopped flying to Kisumu)

Ouagadougou - LOL... I can't even pronounce it!

Luanda - I am surprised KQ does not fly there but the Angola govt is very 'protective' of its local airline TAAG.
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VituVingiSana
#118 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:26:48 AM
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Poor KQ, the idiots at KAA strike AGAIN. The runway lights at JKIA are out. This is the 3rd time in 6 months!!!

What a 3rd class airport.
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theslim
#119 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:54:48 AM
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The 'light' are not really out.
Its actually a NOTAM (Notice to Air Men) from Kenya Civil Aviation Authority notifying all the airlines that use JKIA that the runway threshold lights at (JKIA) do not meet the minimum requirements for a safe night operations as required by ICAO.(International Civil Aviation Organization)

As a result of this and in conformity with their (Kenya Airways safety standards) they have decided to suspend all night operation into and out of JKIA.

This measure is to remain effective until advised otherwise by KCAA who are the regulatory authority in Kenya.
Otherwise its at the discretion of the operator...747 cargo planes operated all nyt taking off and landing....
the early worm is eaten by the early bird
VituVingiSana
#120 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:22:38 AM
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@thslim - Lights out jana. So today, the corrupt idiots at KAA probably hung lanterns thus the 'quality' problem!

Airlines like KQ need to conform to higher standards (skyteam)...
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