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NBK 1H 2013 PBT lag at 3.5%
mwekez@ji
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:29:45 AM
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:33:52 AM
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:49:57 AM
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NSE very slow in uploading copies of the released results #Shame
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:02:12 AM
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Indeed mwekez@ji. Another glass-half-full take on the results...
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:10:48 AM
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I wouldn't hold my breath on NBK...wait until those crazy staff costs kick in.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mwekez@ji
#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:13:57 AM
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muganda wrote:
Indeed mwekez@ji. Another glass-half-full take on the results...


he he. they have a buy rating on nbk so they have to look at the "half full side"
mwekez@ji
#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:20:08 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath on NBK...wait until those crazy staff costs kick in.


They have been poaching senior staff from other banks like crazy. Will certainly impact the P&L
maka
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:33:38 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath on NBK...wait until those crazy staff costs kick in.


They have been poaching senior staff from other banks like crazy. Will certainly impact the P&L


Know someone who got poached from BBK obviously negotiated the salo upwards...but isnt this a two edged sword...the new staff may bring better efficiency that might postively impact the bottom line...
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selah
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:58:51 AM
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maka wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath on NBK...wait until those crazy staff costs kick in.


They have been poaching senior staff from other banks like crazy. Will certainly impact the P&L


Know someone who got poached from BBK obviously negotiated the salo upwards...but isnt this a two edged sword...the new staff may bring better efficiency that might postively impact the bottom line...


The high pay comes with its own expectations and responsibilities .... I think it would be foolish to pay people highly without somekind of targets to be met...which eventually shld contribute to the bottom line.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
KulaRaha
#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 12:14:43 PM
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selah wrote:
maka wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath on NBK...wait until those crazy staff costs kick in.


They have been poaching senior staff from other banks like crazy. Will certainly impact the P&L


Know someone who got poached from BBK obviously negotiated the salo upwards...but isnt this a two edged sword...the new staff may bring better efficiency that might postively impact the bottom line...


The high pay comes with its own expectations and responsibilities .... I think it would be foolish to pay people highly without somekind of targets to be met...which eventually shld contribute to the bottom line.


When you top-load your organisation with overpriced managers, yet the middle tier are still "civil servants". what improvements do you expect?

This should be fun to watch...remember one K-Rep Bank/ECB did the same a few years ago?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
selah
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 12:24:31 PM
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@kularaha I think you have a point I am a fan of KCB and even though it is making profits and undergoing restructuring...I think KCB's potential is suppressed by the "civil" servant kind of service from the middle to low tier staff.

Paying high salaries does not translate to efficiency and I believe banks that outperform the industry are banks that are efficiently run i.e NIC,I&M & Stanchart.



'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 12:29:38 PM
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When you flirt with KCB KE also saving circa 35% on last year's Interest Expenses of 11B, that's more than 1 bob/share smile GFF!
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 12:40:19 PM
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selah wrote:
@kularaha I think you have a point I am a fan of KCB and even though it is making profits and undergoing restructuring...I think KCB's potential is suppressed by the "civil" servant kind of service from the middle to low tier staff.

Paying high salaries does not translate to efficiency and I believe banks that outperform the industry are banks that are efficiently run i.e NIC,I&M & Stanchart.





Most mid managers/staff at NBK will have to be paid off to retire/quit. Only with new staff can they expect to compete with private banks, where customers want a certain level of service.

Plus some NBK new recruits have questionable pasts...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
selah
#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:43:15 PM
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Something interesting about this bank they have increased their Investments in Gsec when the rates were too low...now the rates are increasing ...if they continue rising NBK will suffer one hell of a revaluation loss.

Their cash and cash equivalents have gone down and cash generated from operations is a negative.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:13:52 PM
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selah wrote:
Something interesting about this bank they have increased their Investments in Gsec when the rates were too low...now the rates are increasing ...if they continue rising NBK will suffer one hell of a revaluation loss.

Their cash and cash equivalents have gone down and cash generated from operations is a negative.



seems like the growth is mainly in the HTM book
mwekez@ji
#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:10:39 AM
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kizee1 wrote:
selah wrote:
Something interesting about this bank they have increased their Investments in Gsec when the rates were too low...now the rates are increasing ...if they continue rising NBK will suffer one hell of a revaluation loss.

Their cash and cash equivalents have gone down and cash generated from operations is a negative.


seems like the growth is mainly in the HTM book


That makes it a Held To Maturity problem. ... weird how nbk has perfected the art of lending to government and not to mwananchi. ... someone teach nbk that they are a bank in the business of lending to mwananchi!!!
mwekez@ji
#17 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:23:08 AM
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Chaps have hired mumia's cfo.
(h)ataua nbk¿?
hisah
#18 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:24:42 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Chaps have hired mumia's cfo.
(h)ataua nbk¿?

Seriously...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mwanahisa
#19 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:12:20 AM
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SBG's take on the NBK results...

Half way through the 2013 financial year and National Bank Kenya’s H1:13 results appear to be broadly in line with our FY13 forecasts on an annualised basis (6% ahead of our FY13E numbers). At this point our FY13E forecasts remain unchanged and we maintain our SELL recommendation .

Headline numbers show a weak Q2:13 performance: NBK’s Q2:13 PBT of Ksh307m is 11% below its Q1:13 results but 5% ahead on a y/y basis. Interest expense which increased by 26% q/q to Ksh700m was one of the main reasons for the weak performance. Interestingly, a higher cost of deposits in Q2 was also noted at Equity Bank (+35%q/q) but registered a decline at Barclays Bank (-3%q/q). Net interest income growth was strong at 32%y/y and 14%q/q supported by income from its government securities book. Non-funded income was less upbeat (-31%y/y driven by lower trading and other income). Operating costs registered a marginal increase of 6% y/y and 12% q/q.

NPL’s grow 3.6x on a y/y basis: The banks H1:13 NPL’s stock stood at Ksh4bn vs. Ksh1.1bn in H1:12 with no explanation provided by management. This means that NBK which has a Loans/Deposits ratio of 46% has the highest NPL’s to loans ratio among the companies that we cover based on our analysis, at 15% (8% in FY12) and NPL’s to core capital ratio of 42%. Given its H1:13 loan loss provision of Ksh113m, on our calculations, the banks cost of risk increased by 25bps q/q to 0.95% likely due to SME and mortgage provisioning. With no guidance on asset quality in H2:13, we do not dismiss the possibility of higher provisions than what we factor in our numbers.

Up to c.21% dilution from planned Ksh10bn rights issue: The bank has announced plans to raise Ksh10bn to 1) Pursue loan growth from SME, mortgage and corporate banking segments. 2) Diversify its balance sheet beyond the traditional government book. 3) Open 30 new branches by 2017. If they it were carried out at a 30% discount to today’s closing price, Ksh21.50, we estimate that an additional 664m shares would have to be issued and pro-rata share price would be around Ksh17 per share or 21% below current levels.

TP and rating unchanged : Our FY13E forecasts remain unchanged on the back of this result and we maintain our SELL recommendation TP Ksh23. We prefer NIC Bank (BUY TP Ksh64) and Diamond Trust Bank (BUY TP Ksh192) for tier II names. NBK trades on a FY13E P/E of 5.5x and P/B of 0.5x (our estimates)>.






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