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Why dont Kenyans Speak out!!!!!
story teller
#31 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:18:17 PM
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Posts: 415
Mukiri wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
Rollout wrote:
I stopped one day because I wanted to give a ride to someone, 5 people end up fitting into the back sit which is suppose to fit 3 people and two people tried to get into the front sit, I was helpless since one dude took over and he was like, inatutosha inatutosha, kaa hivi, weka mguu pale, hii gari ni kubwa!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly And you did nothing? In your own car? smh reminds me of a prior thread of the guy who drove off ignoring an unconscious man.

@Chep.. The very nature of the replies here, signify how docile a people we are... and sadly that its the norm. Its been accepted. It might be the reason why Kenya has been a peaceful country despite all the corruption, wanton greed of our leaders(it even fuels it) and evil all around us eg underage sex tourism/pregnancies, witchdoctor ads etc. Even IDPs have accepted their fate!

The question.. and important one at that, is WHY? I look at Kenyans abroad, most go out in search of jobs.. not to create businesses, why? It even happens here at home.. Sheep/slave mentality. I'm no psychiatrist/psychologist but I'm of the opinion that Kenyans have a low self-esteem.. and it has alot to do with the way we are brought up. Alot to do with our education system. How many times have you heard a mother telling her child 'Kula hiyo chakula ama nitakuchapa!' Why are children committing suicide when they fail exams? Why do they even fail exams?
If one is weak in one thing, shouldn't the system seek to identify his/her strengths and develop those? I, for instance, only learnt cram! cram! cram! If you understand what you are cramming/memorizing then you are among the lucky
few.

Sad of all is people wasting their years slaving at their day jobs. Alot of us, its jobs we don't likeSad I had a look at @Penny-stockers thread, where at only 29 he's building apartments as part of his early retirement package. And just like clock-work, someone comment that 29 is too young to be thinking/doing thatSad I may not have had these thoughts imparted on me whilst younger, but I'll bring up my
kids to be doers/thinkers/achievers not sheep. So help me God


@chepkel pole sana dada, you should have written down the matatu's plate number..but please don't pull that stunt again if you wish to live to see your grandkids.
@mukiri, you have spoken like ten wise men..but I've been told that business is not for the faint hearted..



It's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.
Thiong'o
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:48:17 PM
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Saw a woman wailing in Kenyatta Av. outside the SCB –Electricity Hse @around 8.30pm, I learned some thugs picked some things from her car when she stopped at the traffic light. She left the car and gave chase and no one came to her aid. I suppose whatever was stolen was something dear and valuable to her.
kysse
#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:55:58 PM
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Joined: 1/17/2013
Posts: 4,693
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chepkel wrote:
It is absolutly appalling how Kenyans never speak out!!!! Have you ever been in an over speeding Matatu and never spoken out, Have you ever witnessed someone being harrased and never spoken out???

I was walking yesterday and a matatu, in the process of trying to avoid the jam, came on the pedestrial walk side. I refused to move out of the way and the driver hit me!!!!

No one in that matau said anything at all!!!!!! I am sooo disgusted. I think so many such cases happen in Nairobi.

What is worng with us, seriously???


It is 'HOW we speak out that really matters chepkel.
I always find favour everytime I speak out.
Though I joke with people a lot,something must change and so I never encountered a backlash.

tycho
#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:07:29 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Mukiri wrote:
tycho wrote:
i_am_saved wrote:
tycho wrote:
Strategy, and costs are key. But people can speak out. I can speak out.



What has been your cost of speaking out?


As a child and a young adult/youth, I lost trust in authority, I was isolated and 'punished' for being a 'rebel', I've been excommunicated . . . and generally, it hasn't been too difficult for me to find enemies and to 'fight' for 'my' turf.

Now am a child of the wind, with no strong family and kinship ties, I lost even my name of birth. Lol.

Today I've found myself in two cases. The first, my student was arrested by 'copyright guys' and their police 'accomplices'. He'll sleep at Kilimani. I'm thinking of paying bail and sweating it out with the 'crooks'. But what about the cost?

The other one was 'easier'. I found two men quarreling. One was a mido class car owner and the other a grocer on wheelbarrow. The latter had done something to the 'mdosis' car and was trying to explain himself. But the 'mdosi' was demanding for respect, and when it wasn't forthcoming he stabbed the grocer on the cheek bone with his keys. 'We' only managed to make the assailant do first aid to his victim. No one dared to press further lest he found himself at war with a 'rich man'.

By speaking out against injustice I've realized that justice has been used as a fiction to keep the timid in chains, and in the end, one may even lose his sanity.

@Tycho.. Looks like its happening to you in Wazua too.. I noticed there's a user who's always out to work you up. And he's having a field day.Liar My advice, ignore. A weed that is not watered, withers.


Ah! That 'user'? 'He' waters me instead. I love what he does!
Mukiri
#35 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:12:24 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
story teller wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
Rollout wrote:
I stopped one day because I wanted to give a ride to someone, 5 people end up fitting into the back sit which is suppose to fit 3 people and two people tried to get into the front sit, I was helpless since one dude took over and he was like, inatutosha inatutosha, kaa hivi, weka mguu pale, hii gari ni kubwa!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly And you did nothing? In your own car? smh reminds me of a prior thread of the guy who drove off ignoring an unconscious man.

@Chep.. The very nature of the replies here, signify how docile a people we are... and sadly that its the norm. Its been accepted. It might be the reason why Kenya has been a peaceful country despite all the corruption, wanton greed of our leaders(it even fuels it) and evil all around us eg underage sex tourism/pregnancies, witchdoctor ads etc. Even IDPs have accepted their fate!

The question.. and important one at that, is WHY? I look at Kenyans abroad, most go out in search of jobs.. not to create businesses, why? It even happens here at home.. Sheep/slave mentality. I'm no psychiatrist/psychologist but I'm of the opinion that Kenyans have a low self-esteem.. and it has alot to do with the way we are brought up. Alot to do with our education system. How many times have you heard a mother telling her child 'Kula hiyo chakula ama nitakuchapa!' Why are children committing suicide when they fail exams? Why do they even fail exams?
If one is weak in one thing, shouldn't the system seek to identify his/her strengths and develop those? I, for instance, only learnt cram! cram! cram! If you understand what you are cramming/memorizing then you are among the lucky
few.

Sad of all is people wasting their years slaving at their day jobs. Alot of us, its jobs we don't likeSad I had a look at @Penny-stockers thread, where at only 29 he's building apartments as part of his early retirement package. And just like clock-work, someone comment that 29 is too young to be thinking/doing thatSad I may not have had these thoughts imparted on me whilst younger, but I'll bring up my
kids to be doers/thinkers/achievers not sheep. So help me God


@chepkel pole sana dada, you should have written down the matatu's plate number..but please don't pull that stunt again if you wish to live to see your grandkids.
@mukiri, you have spoken like ten wise men..but I've been told that business is not for the faint hearted..




You've brought up an interesting twist.. Add 'Cowardice' to the recipe above! Some may sugar-coat it as 'Fear of the unknown' ABK

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#36 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:19:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
tycho wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
tycho wrote:
i_am_saved wrote:
tycho wrote:
Strategy, and costs are key. But people can speak out. I can speak out.



What has been your cost of speaking out?


As a child and a young adult/youth, I lost trust in authority, I was isolated and 'punished' for being a 'rebel', I've been excommunicated . . . and generally, it hasn't been too difficult for me to find enemies and to 'fight' for 'my' turf.

Now am a child of the wind, with no strong family and kinship ties, I lost even my name of birth. Lol.

Today I've found myself in two cases. The first, my student was arrested by 'copyright guys' and their police 'accomplices'. He'll sleep at Kilimani. I'm thinking of paying bail and sweating it out with the 'crooks'. But what about the cost?

The other one was 'easier'. I found two men quarreling. One was a mido class car owner and the other a grocer on wheelbarrow. The latter had done something to the 'mdosis' car and was trying to explain himself. But the 'mdosi' was demanding for respect, and when it wasn't forthcoming he stabbed the grocer on the cheek bone with his keys. 'We' only managed to make the assailant do first aid to his victim. No one dared to press further lest he found himself at war with a 'rich man'.

By speaking out against injustice I've realized that justice has been used as a fiction to keep the timid in chains, and in the end, one may even lose his sanity.

@Tycho.. Looks like its happening to you in Wazua too.. I noticed there's a user who's always out to work you up. And he's having a field day.Liar My advice, ignore. A weed that is not watered, withers.


Ah! That 'user'? 'He' waters me instead. I love what he does!

Dirty water? What was that about gazing long into the abyss...

Proverbs 19:21
maka
#37 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:37:03 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Thats why you need a gun...
possunt quia posse videntur
simonkabz
#38 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:51:32 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
I tried to fight injustice along juja road and lost my side mirrors. A third time my carina was badly scratched, my day ruined, my ego slapped back to my face but to add salt to injury, madam, who was present even in the previous incidents, kept telling me....."I told u to stop arguing with these fools, now who is the loser".......karibu ning'oe nywele!

Nowadays I just watch the outlaws do their thing, I just give way. Not worth it and your mind remains fresh.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
tycho
#39 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:50:34 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Mukiri wrote:
tycho wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
tycho wrote:
i_am_saved wrote:
tycho wrote:
Strategy, and costs are key. But people can speak out. I can speak out.



What has been your cost of speaking out?


As a child and a young adult/youth, I lost trust in authority, I was isolated and 'punished' for being a 'rebel', I've been excommunicated . . . and generally, it hasn't been too difficult for me to find enemies and to 'fight' for 'my' turf.

Now am a child of the wind, with no strong family and kinship ties, I lost even my name of birth. Lol.

Today I've found myself in two cases. The first, my student was arrested by 'copyright guys' and their police 'accomplices'. He'll sleep at Kilimani. I'm thinking of paying bail and sweating it out with the 'crooks'. But what about the cost?

The other one was 'easier'. I found two men quarreling. One was a mido class car owner and the other a grocer on wheelbarrow. The latter had done something to the 'mdosis' car and was trying to explain himself. But the 'mdosi' was demanding for respect, and when it wasn't forthcoming he stabbed the grocer on the cheek bone with his keys. 'We' only managed to make the assailant do first aid to his victim. No one dared to press further lest he found himself at war with a 'rich man'.

By speaking out against injustice I've realized that justice has been used as a fiction to keep the timid in chains, and in the end, one may even lose his sanity.

@Tycho.. Looks like its happening to you in Wazua too.. I noticed there's a user who's always out to work you up. And he's having a field day.Liar My advice, ignore. A weed that is not watered, withers.


Ah! That 'user'? 'He' waters me instead. I love what he does!

Dirty water? What was that about gazing long into the abyss...


@Mukiri, one reveals his/her psychology in speech, and seeing the other's mind helps you to see your own. And seeing your own mind transforms you.

Every conversation is a moment of transformation. A moment to lose your ego and embrace God more and more. Kabalists have a word for this; 'reshomo'.

Everything is a 'reshimot', a bearer of vital lessons if you look closely enough. This is the secret of the abyss.
i_am_saved
#40 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:43:31 AM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 6/12/2013
Posts: 69
tycho wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
tycho wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
tycho wrote:
i_am_saved wrote:
tycho wrote:
Strategy, and costs are key. But people can speak out. I can speak out.



What has been your cost of speaking out?


As a child and a young adult/youth, I lost trust in authority, I was isolated and 'punished' for being a 'rebel', I've been excommunicated . . . and generally, it hasn't been too difficult for me to find enemies and to 'fight' for 'my' turf.

Now am a child of the wind, with no strong family and kinship ties, I lost even my name of birth. Lol.

Today I've found myself in two cases. The first, my student was arrested by 'copyright guys' and their police 'accomplices'. He'll sleep at Kilimani. I'm thinking of paying bail and sweating it out with the 'crooks'. But what about the cost?

The other one was 'easier'. I found two men quarreling. One was a mido class car owner and the other a grocer on wheelbarrow. The latter had done something to the 'mdosis' car and was trying to explain himself. But the 'mdosi' was demanding for respect, and when it wasn't forthcoming he stabbed the grocer on the cheek bone with his keys. 'We' only managed to make the assailant do first aid to his victim. No one dared to press further lest he found himself at war with a 'rich man'.

By speaking out against injustice I've realized that justice has been used as a fiction to keep the timid in chains, and in the end, one may even lose his sanity.

@Tycho.. Looks like its happening to you in Wazua too.. I noticed there's a user who's always out to work you up. And he's having a field day.Liar My advice, ignore. A weed that is not watered, withers.


Ah! That 'user'? 'He' waters me instead. I love what he does!

Dirty water? What was that about gazing long into the abyss...


@Mukiri, one reveals his/her psychology in speech, and seeing the other's mind helps you to see your own. And seeing your own mind transforms you.

Every conversation is a moment of transformation. A moment to lose your ego and embrace God more and more. Kabalists have a word for this; 'reshomo'.

Everything is a 'reshimot', a bearer of vital lessons if you look closely enough. This is the secret of the abyss.


Mukiri butting into a convo he knows zilch about?

Arrogating to himself the role of defender, advisor, gatekeeper?

How? When he cannot sustain a well thought out exchange? Save coquetted convos, that unfit his profession?

If he thought through things he would have noticed and observed that weeds do not need watering - they thrive, flower and propagate without care and watering.

Mukiri cannot face this 'user' directly, having accepted the illogical nature of his own stature.

The only way to get rid of the weed is to tackle it. It is right here.

Just for Mukiri.
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