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Kenya Airways FY 2012/13 after tax loss of 7.8bn
mwekez@ji
#161 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:27:39 PM
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obiero wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon


Wow! RSI oversold since 2012. When the rebound comes, it'll be vicious. 200% rebound is very likely on that occassion.


I have confidence in this counter i think the news November will sound good (increase in flights, hopefully the passenger numbers too) and if they locked in fuel price at 90s or below, Naikuni will have a good story.

Is KQ referred to as a parastatal?

The counter will soon get to that inflection point where bad news is good news and good news is taken as very good news! This will be that rebound period. Just waiting for that volume story.

KQ will make some people very rich. thank me later

@hisah, pls let us know when the inflection point beckons. Wouldn't want to buy this now and then see it tomorrow being 50% down or worse in bankruptcy
VituVingiSana
#162 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 7:56:05 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon

Does KQ place ads on his website?


That notwithstanding, he must have sunk lots of money here from many years back. I even remember him hyping the April 2012 rights issue @14bob
Ku-hype ni bure. Kununua takes cash. Ads pay for hype.
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murchr
#163 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 4:37:27 AM
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murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon


Wow! RSI oversold since 2012. When the rebound comes, it'll be vicious. 200% rebound is very likely on that occassion.


I have confidence in this counter i think the news November will sound good (increase in flights, hopefully the passenger numbers too) and if they locked in fuel price at 90s or below, Naikuni will have a good story.

Is KQ referred to as a parastatal?



Did I speak too soon...
Business Daily wrote:
Kenya Airways passenger numbers increased 10.9 per cent in its first quarter ended June as it races to recover from the biggest loss ever in the history of companies listed on the Nairobi bourse.

The national carrier said total passenger numbers rose to 932,912 in the three months to June compared to 841, 223 in the same period last year, helped by increased traffic on its domestic, Africa, Middle East and Far East routes.

Source

If the trend continues then things will not be so bad
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Impunity
#164 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:25:23 PM
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murchr wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon


Wow! RSI oversold since 2012. When the rebound comes, it'll be vicious. 200% rebound is very likely on that occassion.


I have confidence in this counter i think the news November will sound good (increase in flights, hopefully the passenger numbers too) and if they locked in fuel price at 90s or below, Naikuni will have a good story.

Is KQ referred to as a parastatal?



Did I speak too soon...
Business Daily wrote:
Kenya Airways passenger numbers increased 10.9 per cent in its first quarter ended June as it races to recover from the biggest loss ever in the history of companies listed on the Nairobi bourse.

The national carrier said total passenger numbers rose to 932,912 in the three months to June compared to 841, 223 in the same period last year, helped by increased traffic on its domestic, Africa, Middle East and Far East routes.

Source

If the trend continues then things will not be so bad


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the deal
#165 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:15:28 PM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Why don't you buy if KQ is doing well...put your money where your mouth is...with Naikuni hawasmek
ProverB
#166 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2013 12:02:49 AM
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This "Passenger Numbers" crap has been bandied around since days of #StocksKenya!! Anybody who has been here that long can attest to the fact #KenyaAirways has been totally incapable of turning such numbers into profit!

Infact the only good year they had was when fuel hedges worked in their favor.

Increase in passenger numbers plus transit tonnage as a metric of growth is useless until those figures translate into per-share profits.

As of now..passenger travel is more a cost center than profit center..

Remember the Greece fiasco? How much did it cost #KQ to accomodate all those passengers whose transit was hamper'd (sic) both locally and abroad simply because of that 1 aircraft?
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mwekez@ji
#167 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2013 12:39:20 AM
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Kenya Airways chiefs take a pay cut

Top executives of Kenya Airways recorded a pay cut last year as the national carrier races to recover from tough two years that saw it swing to the biggest loss ever in the history of companies listed on the Nairobi bourse.

Details in the national carrier’s annual report show that the annual pay of executive directors dropped to Sh77 million in the year to March from Sh82 million a year earlier.

KQ’s annual report lists its executive directors as Titus Naikuni (CEO) and Alex Mbugua (group finance director) —and this means they shared a monthly package of Sh6.41 million, down from last year’s Sh6.83 million.

Analysts linked the pay drop to performance-related compensation and tied it to KQ’s earnings for the year ended March 2012 when carrier’s profit dropped 51.4 per cent to Sh1.66 billion.

“The pay drop appears to be linked to bonuses rather than the actual pay. It could have something to do with two tough years KQ has faced,” said an analyst at Standard Investment Bank.
mwekez@ji
#168 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2013 12:50:09 AM
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ProverB wrote:
This "Passenger Numbers" crap has been bandied around since days of #StocksKenya!! Anybody who has been here that long can attest to the fact #KenyaAirways has been totally incapable of turning such numbers into profit!

Infact the only good year they had was when fuel hedges worked in their favor.

Increase in passenger numbers plus transit tonnage as a metric of growth is useless until those figures translate into per-share profits.

As of now..passenger travel is more a cost center than profit center..

Remember the Greece fiasco? How much did it cost #KQ to accomodate all those passengers whose transit was hamper'd (sic) both locally and abroad simply because of that 1 aircraft?


I still remember this time when they reported very impressive passenger numbers and alas, a few days later a profit warning was unleashed. It killed all excitement that was beginning to build at the time in an instant!!!
guru267
#169 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2013 5:18:07 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Kenya Airways chiefs take a pay cut

Top executives of Kenya Airways recorded a pay cut last year as the national carrier races to recover from tough two years that saw it swing to the biggest loss ever in the history of companies listed on the Nairobi bourse.

Details in the national carrier’s annual report show that the annual pay of executive directors dropped to Sh77 million in the year to March from Sh82 million a year earlier.

KQ’s annual report lists its executive directors as Titus Naikuni (CEO) and Alex Mbugua (group finance director) —and this means they shared a monthly package of Sh6.41 million, down from last year’s Sh6.83 million.

Analysts linked the pay drop to performance-related compensation and tied it to KQ’s earnings for the year ended March 2012 when carrier’s profit dropped 51.4 per cent to Sh1.66 billion.

“The pay drop appears to be linked to bonuses rather than the actual pay. It could have something to do with two tough years KQ has faced,” said an analyst at Standard Investment Bank.


Titus takes home almost 7million per month Sad
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hisah
#170 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2013 7:37:45 AM
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guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Kenya Airways chiefs take a pay cut

Top executives of Kenya Airways recorded a pay cut last year as the national carrier races to recover from tough two years that saw it swing to the biggest loss ever in the history of companies listed on the Nairobi bourse.

Details in the national carrier’s annual report show that the annual pay of executive directors dropped to Sh77 million in the year to March from Sh82 million a year earlier.

KQ’s annual report lists its executive directors as Titus Naikuni (CEO) and Alex Mbugua (group finance director) —and this means they shared a monthly package of Sh6.41 million, down from last year’s Sh6.83 million.

Analysts linked the pay drop to performance-related compensation and tied it to KQ’s earnings for the year ended March 2012 when carrier’s profit dropped 51.4 per cent to Sh1.66 billion.

“The pay drop appears to be linked to bonuses rather than the actual pay. It could have something to do with two tough years KQ has faced,” said an analyst at Standard Investment Bank.


Titus takes home almost 7million per month Sad

And both have no KQ stocks options nor from the open market. Quite expensive this KQ share must be...
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