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Rankaz13
#131 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:32:28 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Punda Mlia wrote:
New driver travelling long distance...my advice, make sure you are comfortable with the car in terms of handling, braking, overtaking and all. Then you need an experienced driver as your co-driver just to make sure things are going well in the cockpit. The rest has been said, check vehicle, approach the journey in portions..i.e. Nairobi to Kitale..think about making it to Nakuru, then think about Nakuru Eldoret. Make frequent stops...do not switch off the car if the stop for like 10 mins...saa hizo gari imeshika moto, inataka kutavuna lami.


I can only let my car run in the parking that long if I have an oil well in my backyard!.
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For most present-day turbo Diesel engines, 5minutes is usually enough. If your engine doesn't already have it, consider installing a turbo timer for this purpose. You'll be glad you did.
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Rankaz13
#132 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:01:27 PM
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Impunity wrote:
limanika wrote:
If the mileage is past 100,000km, ask if engine has timing belt. If yes, ask if it was ever replaced. Replace this at every 100,000km to avoid abrupt engine failure.


Explain this line using engineering facts please, especially the engineer failure part.

d'oh!


I presume you already know some parts of an engine such as crankshaft, camshaft, injector, etc. To recap, the crank converts the up/down movement if pistons into circular motion, and the cam controls the opening & closing of inlet valves (air and fuel) while the fuel injector does exactly that.

Now, in order for these parts to function in unison, they are interconnected via a timing belt, and hence what you might have heard your mechanic refer to as 'timing' especially hizo pande za ngirogoni. What this means is that the up/down movement of pistons closely regulated in tandem with opening/closing of valves so that the valves only open when the piston is at the maximum of the downstroke to inlet the air/fuel mix prior to ignition after which the exhaust valve will also need to open to let out the exhaust fumes, and on and on. You'll agree with me that these complex operations do indeed require very accurate timing.

Obviously, like all other car parts, the timing belt has a lifespan. After all, it being part rubber does indeed lose it's elasticity and indeed if you look closely at a well worn one, you can see some minor cracks along its outer surface. Now, imagine with me a situation where, in the midst of all this up/down piston movement and open/close valve operation, the timing belt suddenly snaps. What is likely to happen?

Bearing in mind the speed at which the engine was moving, several things may happen. One, the piston may come up and find the valve(s) still open. Once the valves hit the piston surface ;which they ordinarily shouldn't, you end up damaging both the valves and pistons, all of which will require replacement. Secondly, it is possible that when the belt snaps, the cam also breaks into small pieces (this happened to me Sad ) and in the process the valves are again affected along with valve seats, seals and a myriad of those other small 'thingies' associated with it. Worst case scenario, the pistons might hit the cylinder head so hard that they cause it to warp/nick (not common) or cause it to crack (more common) and obviously necessitating machining if you're lucky or total replacement. This happened to my pal. On a polite drive from church, gari ikajizima tu yenyewe and refused to start. On inspection at garage, 'twas found the timing belt had snapped and taken out the cylinder head and it's components along with it requiring replacement. Total bill = 100k. Total cost of belt = 4.5k at the time.

And that, @impunity, is my layman's way of putting it. Hope I've made things a bit clearer. Next time you're at the garage and you find them rebuilding an engine (kufunga engine as Kariúki in ngirogoni calls it), get close and observe. Ask some queries on what was wrong with it for instance, what caused it and how to prevent the same from happening. You'll come out better informed and as always, forewarned is forearmed.
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Punda Mlia
#133 Posted : Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:18:26 PM
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Well explained @Rankaz13. Most people even do not notice the check timing belt light glowing on their dashboards. I've traveled in many matatus that have that light on. In some older vehicle models and in motorbikes, its actually a chain that is enclosed within the engine block and is lubricated with engine oil. In bikes, we have tensioners to adjust it as chains tend to grow longer with time due to elasticity of metals under tension. During major service, its one thing garages check along with your shocks, suspensions, engine mountings, drive shafts, etc
Rankaz13
#134 Posted : Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:43:11 PM
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Punda Mlia wrote:
Well explained @Rankaz13. Most people even do not notice the check timing belt light glowing on their dashboards. I've traveled in many matatus that have that light on. In some older vehicle models and in motorbikes, its actually a chain that is enclosed within the engine block and is lubricated with engine oil. In bikes, we have tensioners to adjust it as chains tend to grow longer with time due to elasticity of metals under tension. During major service, its one thing garages check along with your shocks, suspensions, engine mountings, drive shafts, etc


Very true. What most don't know is you can't rely on that dashboard indicator all the time, you better know the exact mileage. That dash indicator, when on, may indicate that the belt is worn and may snap in the next 5, 10,even 1000kms-in short, some indeterminate distance. Recording the mileage on that sticker is easier.
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mpobiz
#135 Posted : Sunday, July 21, 2013 6:25:14 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
limanika wrote:
If the mileage is past 100,000km, ask if engine has timing belt. If yes, ask if it was ever replaced. Replace this at every 100,000km to avoid abrupt engine failure.


Explain this line using engineering facts please, especially the engineer failure part.

d'oh!


I presume you already know some parts of an engine such as crankshaft, camshaft, injector, etc. To recap Mm, the crank converts the up/down movement if pistons into circular motion, and the cam controls the opening & closing of inlet valves (air and fuel) while the fuel injector does exactly that.

Now, in order for these parts to function in unison, they are interconnected via a timing belt, and hence what you might have heard your mechanic refer to as 'timing' especially hizo pande za ngirogoni. What this means is that the up/down movement of pistons closely regulated in tandem with opening/closing of valves so that the valves only open when the piston is at the maximum of the downstroke to inlet the air/fuel mix prior to ignition after which the exhaust valve will also need to open to let out the exhaust fumes, and on and on. You'll agree with me that these complex operations do indeed require very accurate timing.

Obviously, like all other car parts, the timing belt has a lifespan. After all, it being part rubber does indeed lose it's elasticity and indeed if you look closely at a well worn one, you can see some minor cracks along its outer surface. Now, imagine with me a situation where, in the midst of all this up/down piston movement and open/close valve operation, the timing belt suddenly snaps. What is likely to happen?

Bearing in mind the speed at which the engine was moving, several things may happen. One, the piston may come up and find the valve(s) still open. Once the valves hit the piston surface ;which they ordinarily shouldn't, you end up damaging both the valves and pistons, all of which will require replacement. Secondly, it is possible that when the belt snaps, the cam also breaks into small pieces (this happened to me Sad ) and in the process the valves are again affected along with valve seats, seals and a myriad of those other small 'thingies' associated with it. Worst case scenario, the pistons might hit the cylinder head so hard that they cause it to warp/nick (not common) or cause it to crack (more common) and obviously necessitating machining if you're lucky or total replacement. This happened to my pal. On a polite drive from church, gari ikajizima tu yenyewe and refused to start. On inspection at garage, 'twas found the timing belt had snapped and taken out the cylinder head and it's components along with it requiring replacement. Total bill = 100k. Total cost of belt = 4.5k at the time.

And that, @impunity, is my layman's way of putting it. Hope I've made things a bit clearer. Next time you're at the garage and you find them rebuilding an engine (kufunga engine as Kariúki in ngirogoni calls it), get close and observe. Ask some queries on what was wrong with it for instance, what caused it and how to prevent the same from happening. You'll come out better informed and as always, forewarned is forearmed.

Applause Applause hapo hapo. You have forgotten to tell them that this is normally a Toyota problem. Toyota loves timing belts most of the other Japanese models use timing chains or gears


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