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A driving licence is worth kshs 6000!!! NKT!!!!
xyzee
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:57:57 AM
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It took me a month in AA to train while my colleague was in one of the driving schools was 'ready' in 3 days and did not even get to start the car during the exams.

Some of the driving schools also collude with rogue cops to ensure there students pass.
mukiha
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:28:03 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
murchr wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
Shame on you Shame on you 6k is even too muchLiar


I think it should be higher Kenya has too many wanna be drivers. The thing needs to be digitized and and fees raised. The country needs money

Ditto!!

Declare ALL DLs redundant and issue digitalized ones upon some strict digitalized exam.


How do you digitise a driving exam? With a digital car?

Be practical bwana!

But I agree with you, DLs be declared redundant.

Change the training and exam system...take it away from the police and give it to "serious" driving schools... likes of AA etc

Prepare curriculum of skills that must be mastered before issuance of CoP. Include basic health check-up especially sight [this should actually be done annually before renewal]

Remove KRA from the system - they add no value whatsoever - just collecting cash for God knows what!!!
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masukuma
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:33:35 AM
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Hypocracy....
halafu people cry out about 'how kethi got her acknowledgement slip' ati coz 'the credibility' of IEBC is questioned. you people drive around with bought DLs, live on land that has fake Title deeds and show people fake IDs and the largest concern is "how did kethi get her acknowledgement slip"
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Rankaz13
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:09:22 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
murchr wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
Shame on you Shame on you 6k is even too muchLiar


I think it should be higher Kenya has too many wanna be drivers. The thing needs to be digitized and and fees raised. The country needs money

Ditto!!

Declare ALL DLs redundant and issue digitalized ones upon some strict digitalized exam.


How do you digitise a driving exam? With a digital car?

Be practical bwana!

But I agree with you, DLs be declared redundant.

Change the training and exam system...take it away from the police and give it to "serious" driving schools... likes of AA etc

Prepare curriculum of skills that must be mastered before issuance of CoP. Include basic health check-up especially sight [this should actually be done annually before renewal]

Remove KRA from the system - they add no value whatsoever - just collecting cash for God knows what!!!



One word for that: Australia!! Huko, the driving test is divided into 4 parts. There's the written part where you sit for a classroom-style exam. Then there's an oral exam where you're asked questions and expected to think on your feet and answer them. Then there's the computer-simulated part of the test, akin to playing a video game. Only after you've passed all those three do you then go for the practical road-test. Na hapa pia mambo ni moto, with stuff like you should not park within 300mm of the kerb, you should drive within 10% of the speed limit, etc.

Should you pass all this you're issued with a provisional driving license valid for 3yrs during which time you're expected to earn points and/or hours that will then qualify you to get the full license. In short, you earn the license (in much the same way as a pilot) and getting the full license isn't automatic. If one fails any part of the test, you repeat it. Of course, there's a minimum no. of contact hours one is expected to have prior to attempting the test.
Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
Mukiri
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:34:23 AM
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Some of these ideas that we discuss here, how do pass them on to relevant authorities?

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mosesotieno
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:15:03 AM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
mukiha wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
murchr wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
Shame on you Shame on you 6k is even too muchLiar


I think it should be higher Kenya has too many wanna be drivers. The thing needs to be digitized and and fees raised. The country needs money

Ditto!!

Declare ALL DLs redundant and issue digitalized ones upon some strict digitalized exam.


How do you digitise a driving exam? With a digital car?

Be practical bwana!

But I agree with you, DLs be declared redundant.

Change the training and exam system...take it away from the police and give it to "serious" driving schools... likes of AA etc

Prepare curriculum of skills that must be mastered before issuance of CoP. Include basic health check-up especially sight [this should actually be done annually before renewal]

Remove KRA from the system - they add no value whatsoever - just collecting cash for God knows what!!!



One word for that: Australia!! Huko, the driving test is divided into 4 parts. There's the written part where you sit for a classroom-style exam. Then there's an oral exam where you're asked questions and expected to think on your feet and answer them. Then there's the computer-simulated part of the test, akin to playing a video game. Only after you've passed all those three do you then go for the practical road-test. Na hapa pia mambo ni moto, with stuff like you should not park within 300mm of the kerb, you should drive within 10% of the speed limit, etc.

Should you pass all this you're issued with a provisional driving license valid for 3yrs during which time you're expected to earn points and/or hours that will then qualify you to get the full license. In short, you earn the license (in much the same way as a pilot) and getting the full license isn't automatic. If one fails any part of the test, you repeat it. Of course, there's a minimum no. of contact hours one is expected to have prior to attempting the test.


@Rankaz, such a lengthy testing process would likely increase corruption, simply because people would be willing to pay a premium just to get the licence. You know how it is with we Kenyans when something is hard to get.

I'd rather follow the South African system which involves a learner's theory test and a practical driving test.

Passing the learner's test allows you to have an 'L' on your car and one can only drive when accompanied by a licenced driver. Never alone. An eye test is also conducted at this stage.

The learner's licence is valid for two years and allows you attend driving school for practical instruction. These practical classes include defensive driving, parking reversing and parking manouvres etc, just like we have in Kenya.

When the driving school feels you're ready to take the test, they will give you clearance to book the test. This booking has to be done by the individual, in person, at a testing centre which is separate from the traffic police dept.

The driving test itself is quite challenging, and involves urban and freeway (highway) driving among other components. The examiner also has a marking sheet to try and make the evaluation as objective as possible.

South African drivers are not perfect, but by and large they follow traffic rules and drive sensibly. I think that is something that the Kenya driving system can aim to achieve.

But we seem to agree on one thing regardless: traffic police should have nothing to do with driving tests.


CLK
#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:50:17 PM
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murchr wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
Shame on you Shame on you 6k is even too muchLiar


I think it should be higher Kenya has too many wanna be drivers. The thing needs to be digitized and and fees raised. The country needs money


Should be free, its a right, just like the ID for both the rich and poor. This document has reduced unemployment and hence feeds many mouths, unless you want to have the number of vigilantes increased.
However the whole process should be strictly governed not like a mitumba market...
CLK
#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:54:15 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Hypocracy....
halafu people cry out about 'how kethi got her acknowledgement slip' ati coz 'the credibility' of IEBC is questioned. you people drive around with bought DLs, live on land that has fake Title deeds and show people fake IDs and the largest concern is "how did kethi get her acknowledgement slip"


My bible tells me, at one point Jesus asked anyone who was sinless to be the first to cast a stone at the adulterous woman, no one did :)

the world is one rotten place, more like Babylon, ama Sodom and Gomorrah...
jaggernaut
#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:25:11 PM
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xyzee wrote:
It took me a month in AA to train while my colleague was in one of the driving schools was 'ready' in 3 days and did not even get to start the car during the exams.

Some of the driving schools also collude with rogue cops to ensure there students pass.


I know someone who got a license though he never went to any driving school. Problem is that it was a useless license since he was too afraid to venture into the roads with his newly bought car. He therefore had to enroll in a driving school to get the skills, competence and confidence to be on the road.

Driving is like swimming. You need to be trained and become competent otherwise you will die if you jump into the road/pool after using shortcuts. It's your life afterall.
murchr
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:33:12 PM
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CLK wrote:
murchr wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
Shame on you Shame on you 6k is even too muchLiar


I think it should be higher Kenya has too many wanna be drivers. The thing needs to be digitized and and fees raised. The country needs money


Should be free, its a right, just like the ID for both the rich and poor. This document has reduced unemployment and hence feeds many mouths, unless you want to have the number of vigilantes increased.
However the whole process should be strictly governed not like a mitumba market...


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