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Home Afrika Listing at NSE!
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#21 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:01:19 PM
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Thanks @mw€k€ for the 2012 accounts & breaking down salient features. 2011 accounts looked depressing. Ofcourse the high interest regime present then takes much of the blame. Hope the turnaround in 2012 holds.
This one I will watch from the sidelines!

#spectator ionssmile
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mwekez@ji
#22 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:16:37 PM
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@$PT, am with you #spectator ionssmile

Notice the 405,255,320 shares being listed have a net book value (including goodwill) of KES 0.91 and a net book value (excluding goodwill) of KES 0.73. ... Home Afrika will be ripping off wanjiku if the introduction price is not below 1bob!!!
cnn
#23 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:22:29 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Thanks @mw€k€ for the 2012 accounts & breaking down salient features. 2011 accounts looked depressing. Ofcourse the high interest regime present then takes much of the blame. Hope the turnaround in 2012 holds.
This one I will watch from the sidelines!

#spectator ionssmile

From a deep loss position in 2011 to 4.67 in EPS and 70 cents dividend in 2012 ...
mwekez@ji
#24 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:35:53 PM
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cnn wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Thanks @mw€k€ for the 2012 accounts & breaking down salient features. 2011 accounts looked depressing. Ofcourse the high interest regime present then takes much of the blame. Hope the turnaround in 2012 holds.
This one I will watch from the sidelines!

#spectator ionssmile

From a deep loss position in 2011 to 4.67 in EPS and 70 cents dividend in 2012 ...


On listing, they have split the 40,525,532 shares as at 31st December 2012 to 10 meaning they are listing 405,255,320 shares.

That means we are now talking of coming from a deep loss in 2011 to KES 0.467 in EPS and 7 cents dividend in 2012 ...
mwekez@ji
#25 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:49:32 PM
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A crazy observation is that they paid PKF to value the company at KES 8.5B. Thats a price per share of a whopping 21 bob!!! ... No details given on valuation methodology!!! ... DAMN!!!... CMA is sleeping on the job for not demanding information memorandum before this counter is listed!!!
cnn
#26 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:15:30 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
A crazy observation is that they paid PKF to value the company at KES 8.5B. Thats a price per share of a whopping 21 bob!!! ... No details given on valuation methodology!!! ... DAMN!!!... CMA is sleeping on the job for not demanding information memorandum before this counter is listed!!!

I saw that and i was thinking how did they get to this....without the IM,my money stays safe.
mwekez@ji
#27 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:17:02 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Company growth target:" to build a One Billion Dollar Company in the next five years. "


mwekez@ji wrote:
Home Afrika 10 Year Vision is to be a 10 Billion Dollar Company (sales revenue).


Talk of lofty targets. Company generated <10 million dollar sales revenue in 2012 and its talking of hitting sales revenue of 1,000 million dollars in 2017 and 10,000 million dollars in 2022 ... are these the lofty assumptions used by PKF in valuing the company
mwekez@ji
#28 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:46:14 PM
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cnn wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
A crazy observation is that they paid PKF to value the company at KES 8.5B. Thats a price per share of a whopping 21 bob!!! ... No details given on valuation methodology!!! ... DAMN!!!... CMA is sleeping on the job for not demanding information memorandum before this counter is listed!!!

I saw that and i was thinking how did they get to this....without the IM,my money stays safe.

stocksmaster
#29 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:08:31 PM
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cnn wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
A crazy observation is that they paid PKF to value the company at KES 8.5B. Thats a price per share of a whopping 21 bob!!! ... No details given on valuation methodology!!! ... DAMN!!!... CMA is sleeping on the job for not demanding information memorandum before this counter is listed!!!

I saw that and i was thinking how did they get to this....without the IM,my money stays safe.


At a net income of Ksh 167.7M for 2012 and a Book Value of Ksh 8.5B (which i assume will be the basis of determination of listing price); its return on equity = net income/shareholders equity is a depressing 1.97%.

Compare this with the ROE of Trans Century at 15.1% (P/B of 1.8); Centum at 18.4% (P/B of 1.0); Housing Finance at 15.0% (P/B of 1.1).

At such a low ROE, which is about an eighth of its peers,i would price the share at a tenth of Ksh 21 hence a price of Ksh 2.00.

The price of Ksh 2.00 would mean a P/E of 4.30 which would be comparable to HFCK (p/e 7.5); Centum (p/e 5.6), trancentury (p/e of 12) all of which have better investor returns.

Based on the 2011 results which were a loss position, i think i'll stay out of this one unless their is a significant discount on the Ksh 2.00.

Happy Hunting.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#30 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 3:35:18 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
cnn wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
A crazy observation is that they paid PKF to value the company at KES 8.5B. Thats a price per share of a whopping 21 bob!!! ... No details given on valuation methodology!!! ... DAMN!!!... CMA is sleeping on the job for not demanding information memorandum before this counter is listed!!!

I saw that and i was thinking how did they get to this....without the IM,my money stays safe.


Kudos mwekez@ji. Big talk from these fellows. Not impossible - but such lofty promises tend to be unnerving to some. e.g Fountain Enterprises Programme wanting to be biggest bank in 2016Sad
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