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Rankaz13
#31 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 2:58:04 PM
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Siringi wrote:
Would appreciate honest reviews from wazuans on the midsize SUV's [Honda, Forrester, Nissan Xtrail and RAV 4]
I have three friends One drives a Honda CRV , Mwingine an Xtrail and the third one a Subaru addict. Now each swears that theirs is the best choice and would never touch any other brands- well except the xtrail guy who moans excessive fuel consumption... My Honda pal has had like three Honda while the Forrester guy started with like two imprezas before graduating to forresters- he's had two... what is is that addicts?

How do wazuans rank these cars (ranked withe the king at no 1)
I have seen Kia Sportage and Ford something i can remember the name
PS test drove a Forrester an I think Subarus are overrated!


I have read widely on engine types and watched a few documentaries and the one thing that consistently crops up is that Honda make the best engines, in terms of consumption/efficiency, emissions, longevity, etc.
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#32 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 3:18:30 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Siringi wrote:
Would appreciate honest reviews from wazuans on the midsize SUV's [Honda, Forrester, Nissan Xtrail and RAV 4]
I have three friends One drives a Honda CRV , Mwingine an Xtrail and the third one a Subaru addict. Now each swears that theirs is the best choice and would never touch any other brands- well except the xtrail guy who moans excessive fuel consumption... My Honda pal has had like three Honda while the Forrester guy started with like two imprezas before graduating to forresters- he's had two... what is is that addicts?

How do wazuans rank these cars (ranked withe the king at no 1)
I have seen Kia Sportage and Ford something i can remember the name
PS test drove a Forrester an I think Subarus are overrated!

@Siringi, I add to the Mid SUV's Toyoya Harrier. It has a smooth ride, very comfortable while driving, a good sound system and the pick-up is very fast. Lakini it is a guzzler

@Gathige in my opinion, Harrier is in a different category from the four listed.

@Siringi about the SUVs, I assume you meant Honda CRV... This my opinion:

1. Honda CRV
- most spacious
- most stable (have you ever seen one rolled?)
- consumption competitive with VVTEC technology
- has status/class
- not darling of thieves
- most durable
- resale value very high
- but parts are more expensive
Although, parts are more expensive, they last forever (literally)

2. Forester
- moderately spacious
- moderately stable (but misused by people who roll with them once in while, that tells you who are the common owners)
- guzzler especially the turbo
- not sure about the status/class, but it's favourite of the young generation (I don't know why, coud be the sound and power?)
- moderately durable
- cheaper to buy (you cab save upto 1/2 mita i.e. sh500K compared to CRV/RAV4)
- resale value low (you can sell you Forester for months before you get a buyer)
- although the parts are expensive, they last longer than RAV-4 and ofcourse X-Trail

3. RAV-4
- very squeezed (try the back seats and wore unto you if you are a tall person)
- moderately stable
- most economical
- moderate status/class
- darling of thieves given that it is a Toyota
- moderately durable
- highly overrated to buy (you can pay over sh500K compared to Forester)
- high resale value (you can sell it in a day due to above point, overated)
- although parts cheaper because of many, many imitations in the market, they last less longer than CRV and Forester

4. Nissan X-trail
- moderately spacious
- moderately stable
- slightly guzzler than Honda
- has status/class
- least durable
- resale value very low (you can sell it for years unless throw away price)
- parts are both expensive and last shorter

So make your choice. smile d'oh!

To me,
- take Honda if you have the money and want to have the car until you give it to your grand children
- or Forester if your pocket is a bit squeezed but some for maintenance
- or RAV-4 if you want to sell it quickly at some time in future
- or X-Trail if you want to replace it in less than 10 years as scrap meatal
Siringi
#33 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 4:37:47 PM
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@AlphDoti Thanks Good analysis
Methinks also class ya Harrier / Kluger maybe Ford Everest/ Qashqai is slightly higher.

Here are some comments and reviews from the BBC topgear  they dont seem to think highly of the Honda and the Forrester.. RAV 4 hata usiseme:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/nissan/x-trail 6/10
http://www.topgear.com/uk/honda/cr-v 5/10
http://uk.node1.topgear.com/uk/subaru/forester 5/10
http://uk.node1.topgear....k/subaru/legacy-outback 6/10
http://uk.node1.topgear.com/uk/toyota/rav4 4/10
http://uk.node1.topgear.com/uk/kia/sportage 6/10
http://uk.node1.topgear.com/uk/nissan/qashqai 6/10 is this similar to Murano?

Ford Everest ?? is this a Kuga?
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#34 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 4:49:44 PM
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@AlphDoti. Good analyses. Proves I made the right choice to buy a CRV. I don't intend to sell it. How much would a new VVTEC engine cost? @Siringi. Honda is for Americans, not Britons!
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quicksand
#35 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 7:53:45 PM
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bird_man wrote:
@quicksand.....how can you compare a 1500cc impreza to a 2500 toyota?There is also a price diff of about 600k btwn the two.Compare the impreza to an NZE or the Mark X to an Outback and please report back.


Well,....I didn't intend it to come out as one to one comparison between the imprezza and the Mark X,..my point is the Subaru 'halo effect' (which was brought about by the racer WRX) does not extend to all models ...for instance, the Legacy 2000cc is a good car, but I would take an Altezza 2000cc. Pacy little machine, very beautiful ..this summary dismissal of Toyotas and summary endorsement of Subarus is misguided.
quicksand
#36 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 8:05:11 PM
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@Siringi - lived with an Xtrail for a short while - its aerodynamics/stability and brakes at speed are unsettling. Hit 120KPH and you get the feeling the wash from speeding lorry will lift you off to a ditch 20 metres from the road ...the model I had has drum brakes at the back,..incomprehensible for a car of that size, when you brake hard, the back rises and when it falls back, the front wheels lose some grip then you skid jumpily before you stop while also praying hard the brakes hold before you hit whatever has crossed your path infront. Wouldn't buy this car IMHO.
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#37 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 8:44:49 PM
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quicksand wrote:
..this summary dismissal of Toyotas and summary endorsement of Subarus is misguided.

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#38 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 11:51:49 PM
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While at it, anyone selling a CRV (not the very old model & Not the very new one; say Yr 2001 to 2004)?
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#39 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 2:06:38 AM
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quicksand wrote:
@Siringi - lived with an Xtrail for a short while - its aerodynamics/stability and brakes at speed are unsettling. Hit 120KPH and you get the feeling the wash from speeding lorry will lift you off to a ditch 20 metres from the road ...the model I had has drum brakes at the back,..incomprehensible for a car of that size, when you brake hard, the back rises and when it falls back, the front wheels lose some grip then you skid jumpily before you stop while also praying hard the brakes hold before you hit whatever has crossed your path infront. Wouldn't buy this car IMHO.

very well put X-trail is a NO NO...
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#40 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2013 4:57:24 AM
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Quicksand-couldnt agree more. @Siringi - Just to add a few points worth considering. The Forester and the Cr-v are primarily front wheel drive, and in the event of a slip, the rear wheels engage making them 4wd when it's needed, but it's not selectable on the models I have come across. I did see one older CR-V and Forester at some point that allowed one to select the 4wd low and high option- but these were exceptions. The Xtrail and Rav 4 have selectable 4wd- thats if you buy the 4wd's. Be careful to ensure it is a 4wd if that is what you want. Not all tall cars/ SUV's are 4wd. Some come with only 2wd and I find the 2wd to be cheaper than those with 4wd. Another factor to consider is performance. If performance is your thing I'd suggest the Forester turbo. The turbo kicks in depending on the revs/rpm. So if you drive moderately the consumption isnt so bad.It gives you the benefit of power when you want it. The next in line is the Xtrail GT which is also turbo charged. Its fast in a straight line but handles like a boat. Also consider whether you want a diesel or petrol. I havent seen a lot of diesels on the road- but they are great on fuel consumption rivaling some hybrids. Some of the older diesels however do cause quite a racket and the cabin noise can get unbearable. All the best in your selection. Hope this helps.
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