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THE GOSPEL - Setting the record straight.
tycho
#81 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:05:58 PM
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Um Sayala wrote:
who was Barabas? from religious and historical perspectives


I made an inference from Josephus's account of the spirit of his times, and Biblical accounts, and my take is that Barabas was probably a 'freedom fighter' who was highly regarded.

Religiously, he seemed to take a traditional Jewish stance that didn't recognize 'Jesus's messiahship, and the ideas that came with it.
Behemoth
#82 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:48:45 PM
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Ante_Christa wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:

The 'gospel' is now an industry!

That was the reference given by pastors et al during the Groove Awards on Sunday.

Allow me to clarify one thing... ok i'll let the bible speak for itself..

1st Timothy 6:

3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4 they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5 and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it.
8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.
9 Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.
10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

BUT for the christian ??

11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.
12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
13 In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you
14 to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.





I like your dissection. What a motivating feeling to know that we are serving one Master, Jesus Christ is His Name.

Can someone tell me who has ever received Jesus in these concerts??


Pls answer me...



Can I? You need to specify which Jesus?

They are many.

One of them will be in uhuru park starting today and multitudes will welcome him into their lives and give their lives to him.

He will also cast out demons and heal some and people will speak in unintelligible tongues.

Which Jesus are you referring to?


Jesus the Christ.
Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
Behemoth
#83 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:55:50 PM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Muheani wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
essyk wrote:
urstill wrote:

Hata zile za gay rights?


By the way,the devil can actually lead one to God.

Pls expound how democratic God's government is.


And @ Mtu Biz, what do u thionk of God's government?.


@Mtu Biz, what is ua thought on the above?



@Behemoth

Im trying not to digress from the main issue here which is the Gospel but i'll give you the short version of my answer.

God's Government.

Referred to in the bible as the Kingdom of God.

Its closest comparison in human government is an absolute Monarchy.



Really?

I had sort of expected a short answer in the line of "Democracy, as practiced by world governments can never be mirrored in the Kingdom of GOD" as in the kingdom of GOD is "Heavenly" and can only be understood when you understand the "Heavenly"



Well the Kingdom of God has been described and talked about extensively in scripture,and it can be understood from scripture.
And based on what the Bible says about the Kingdom of God... it is the farthest thing from a democracy. It is in fact a Theocracy.


@Mtu Biz, I have learnt something, web Definition: From the perspective of the theocratic government, "God himself is recognized as the head" of the state, hence the term theocracy, from the Greek θεοκρατία "rule of God"

Thanks & keep it up.

Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
Behemoth
#84 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 4:05:22 PM
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Ante_Christa wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
essyk wrote:
urstill wrote:

Hata zile za gay rights?


This is what I 'think'.

The world knows and recognises it's own.
Laws made by man whom God created are meant to bring order on earth not heaven.
They have no eternal bearing.
But God has also made a provision by giving us the right to choose btwn what is right and wrong because choices have eternal consequences.
He is not ignorant of some silly laws made by us, but He respects the fact that the devil still roams the earth until his time is up.
He respects the Governing Institutions but not the 'funny laws'made by them.
So sio eti God approves gay rights but He leaves us to choose because we appoint the people making those laws.
God has His own Democratic Goverment you know and he wouldn't force us into it unlike the man made one.

By the way,the devil can actually lead one to God.

Pls expound how democratic God's government is.


And @ Mtu Biz, what do u thionk of God's government?.


@Mtu Biz, what is ua thought on the above?


It not directed to me but I will hazard an answer.

Do you want to talk about alternatives?

What alternative can be offered other the one the former covering cherub proposed and agitated for?

Or do you want to talk about the welfare of the governed?


I lost u bt let me try getting what ua answer means.
R u refering that the God's government is NOT democratic? And that the only time an alternative government was attempted by Lucifer (Isaiah 28:14-19) the results were devastating?
Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
hamburglar
#85 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:23:24 PM
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Religion is for the weak minded. You have to be an award winning dumbass to believe in nonsensical fairy tales involving talking snakes and some hippy turning water into wine and walking on water. Lol. Surely, there is a sucker born everyday. Now you guys can tell your god to strike me dead. An waiting for my punishment. Hehehe.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#86 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:29:38 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,225
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
hamburglar wrote:
Religion is for the weak minded. You have to be an award winning dumbass to believe in nonsensical fairy tales involving talking snakes and some hippy turning water into wine and walking on water. Lol. Surely, there is a sucker born everyday. Now you guys can tell your god to strike me dead. An waiting for my punishment. Hehehe.

Happy new year!!!
While u were away,many religious threads were started & we were wondering what became of you. Seems God still loves yousmile
Care to dig up those threads and explain?
When do you plan to get saved?smile
akina Tycho,nabwire and essyk have soo missed you!
@SufficientlyP
Mtu Biz
#87 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:12:06 PM
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Joined: 1/16/2007
Posts: 1,320
hamburglar wrote:
Religion is for the weak minded. You have to be an award winning dumbass to believe in nonsensical fairy tales involving talking snakes and some hippy turning water into wine and walking on water. Lol. Surely, there is a sucker born everyday. Now you guys can tell your god to strike me dead. An waiting for my punishment. Hehehe.


Ham Burglar!

So which fairy tale do you subscribe to ?

Is it the one where your ancestors morphed from algae to fish to crawling fish to im not sure what was between that and baboons then finally to hamburger ?

Not that one? Which one ?
Sola Scriptura


Nabwire
#88 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45:45 AM
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Joined: 7/22/2011
Posts: 1,325
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Religion is for the weak minded. You have to be an award winning dumbass to believe in nonsensical fairy tales involving talking snakes and some hippy turning water into wine and walking on water. Lol. Surely, there is a sucker born everyday. Now you guys can tell your god to strike me dead. An waiting for my punishment. Hehehe.

Happy new year!!!
While u were away,many religious threads were started & we were wondering what became of you. Seems God still loves yousmile
Care to dig up those threads and explain?
When do you plan to get saved?smile
akina Tycho,nabwire and essyk have soo missed you!


LOL Hamburglar welcome back, we need a dose of your insanity every so often. You started off well castigating religion but ended badly dragging God into it. I agree religion is man made but achana na Mungu, lets see if you will be asking for his wrath when you are old and helpless! Hebu watch for me hii video ya Beyoncé uniambie saitan anafanya nini huko kwa background.. LOL its called 1+1,if there is no God then why is the devil popping up everywhere?
AlphDoti
#89 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:47:12 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Religion is for the weak minded. You have to be an award winning dumbass to believe in nonsensical fairy tales involving talking snakes and some hippy turning water into wine and walking on water. Lol. Surely, there is a sucker born everyday. Now you guys can tell your god to strike me dead. An waiting for my punishment. Hehehe.

Happy new year!!!
While u were away,many religious threads were started & we were wondering what became of you. Seems God still loves yousmile
Care to dig up those threads and explain?
When do you plan to get saved?smile
akina Tycho,nabwire and essyk have soo missed you!

@Suff and @ham funny how mortals make fun of what they don't know.

Did you bring yourself into this world?
Do you have surety that you just came into existence from nowhere, just like that?

You guys are intelligent people:
- who's controlling this universe
- hearts of people
- etc?

Instead of responding to your maker, you instead follow the manipulation of the shaitan?

Even if you don't want to agree
...use your intellect to reflect on:
- blinking of eye
- beating of heart
- swallowing
- breathing
- etc

Are you commanding these?

Human have choices
- to choose what will eventually lead to destruction or
- choose what will lead you to success
Ante_Christa
#90 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:03:46 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/31/2013
Posts: 109
Behemoth wrote:
Ante_Christa wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
essyk wrote:
urstill wrote:

Hata zile za gay rights?


This is what I 'think'.

The world knows and recognises it's own.
Laws made by man whom God created are meant to bring order on earth not heaven.
They have no eternal bearing.
But God has also made a provision by giving us the right to choose btwn what is right and wrong because choices have eternal consequences.
He is not ignorant of some silly laws made by us, but He respects the fact that the devil still roams the earth until his time is up.
He respects the Governing Institutions but not the 'funny laws'made by them.
So sio eti God approves gay rights but He leaves us to choose because we appoint the people making those laws.
God has His own Democratic Goverment you know and he wouldn't force us into it unlike the man made one.

By the way,the devil can actually lead one to God.

Pls expound how democratic God's government is.


And @ Mtu Biz, what do u thionk of God's government?.


@Mtu Biz, what is ua thought on the above?


It not directed to me but I will hazard an answer.

Do you want to talk about alternatives?

What alternative can be offered other the one the former covering cherub proposed and agitated for?

Or do you want to talk about the welfare of the governed?


I lost u bt let me try getting what ua answer means.
R u refering that the God's government is NOT democratic? And that the only time an alternative government was attempted by Lucifer (Isaiah 28:14-19) the results were devastating?


If you insist,

...and they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are they works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy, for all nations shall come and worship before thee, for thy judgments are made manifest......

If you insist its democracy, its a unanimous decision by all created beings.

There then, which created being will ever think of saying, 'there can be another way....' as is typical of a democracy especially after witnessing his justice and mercy for themselves first hand in the light of the so called 'democracy'?

Is that democracy?
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