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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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They've apologizedLuck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Negative publicity yet the place is always full. poor Kenyans and trying hard to identify. nothing will change much. Thieves
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/11/2006 Posts: 972 Location: Home
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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But given how lousy their service is, why do Kenyans even bother going there? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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I try not to set foot in places like Art Caffe,..always find staff in foreign owned establishments a bit frosty, even if when it is not necessarily discrimination. The other reason is a faux pas sometime back when I strayed into an international hotel ...so much hair splitting ..in this case, the waiter would not clear the empty plate (I had cleaned every morsel off its surface),because you need to arrange the fork and knife touching the plate turned down or something like that. He let that awkward situation stew for a long while and I had to prompt the guy to take it away. I got a tutorial on how to arrange forks and knives in the most condescending sing-songy tone you can ever imagine. As if that was not enough, as I am about to leave, egg on face, the person I was meeting hints I should stop being a culture-less village person and suggests it is fashionable to leave a tip in such places. I like fashion as much as the next person and being neither too mean nor too extravagant, I imagine 200 is plenty of tip ....alas the tip gets rejected sneeringly but in perfectly polite language. Apparently there is a rule written in an obscure scroll somewhere that says you have to tip 5% of your expenditure. Fine, I admit I was ignorant, but humiliation traumatises me - I go to great lengths to avoid it. Some education I can do without, like obscure rules of dining.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:But given how lousy their service is, why do Kenyans even bother going there? Couldn't agree more!!! I almost gave up waiting for service....and that was before this attack on social media...It was the last time I went there...other coffee houses do better.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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quicksand wrote:I try not to set foot in places like Art Caffe,..always find staff in foreign owned establishments a bit frosty, even if when it is not necessarily discrimination. The other reason is a faux pas sometime back when I strayed into an international hotel ...so much hair splitting ..in this case, the waiter would not clear the empty plate (I had cleaned every morsel off its surface),because you need to arrange the fork and knife touching the plate turned down or something like that. He let that awkward situation stew for a long while and I had to prompt the guy to take it away. I got a tutorial on how to arrange forks and knives in the most condescending sing-songy tone you can ever imagine. As if that was not enough, as I am about to leave, egg on face, the person I was meeting hints I should stop being a culture-less village person and suggests it is fashionable to leave a tip in such places. I like fashion as much as the next person and being neither too mean nor too extravagant, I imagine 200 is plenty of tip ....alas the tip gets rejected sneeringly but in perfectly polite language. Apparently there is a rule written in an obscure scroll somewhere that says you have to tip 5% of your expenditure. Fine, I admit I was ignorant, but humiliation traumatises me - I go to great lengths to avoid it. Some education I can do without, like obscure rules of dining. Pole lakini.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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I understand preparations are underway for occupyartcaffe It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt... -Mark Twain
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Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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they apologise and distance themselves from their (offending) branch. looks like art cafe junction is throwing village market under the bus. who does pr for these guys? the 'wazuan watchman'?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Can you imagine a restaurant in a top mall in a city in Europe, and run by black Kenyans, refusing to serve middle class Europeans because they asked for 8 croissants and also because they are WHITE?? It would be closed that same hour and the owner deported. Why are Kenyans allowing themselves mistreated in their own country? You are mistreated abroad and even at home?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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quicksand wrote:I try not to set foot in places like Art Caffe,..always find staff in foreign owned establishments a bit frosty, even if when it is not necessarily discrimination. The other reason is a faux pas sometime back when I strayed into an international hotel ...so much hair splitting ..in this case, the waiter would not clear the empty plate (I had cleaned every morsel off its surface),because you need to arrange the fork and knife touching the plate turned down or something like that. He let that awkward situation stew for a long while and I had to prompt the guy to take it away. I got a tutorial on how to arrange forks and knives in the most condescending sing-songy tone you can ever imagine. As if that was not enough, as I am about to leave, egg on face, the person I was meeting hints I should stop being a culture-less village person and suggests it is fashionable to leave a tip in such places. I like fashion as much as the next person and being neither too mean nor too extravagant, I imagine 200 is plenty of tip ....alas the tip gets rejected sneeringly but in perfectly polite language. Apparently there is a rule written in an obscure scroll somewhere that says you have to tip 5% of your expenditure. Fine, I admit I was ignorant, but humiliation traumatises me - I go to great lengths to avoid it. Some education I can do without, like obscure rules of dining. Ignorant of an obscure rule??? Eish!! Hata kama! Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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You tip when you receive good service. If it's lacking, why would you do it? Do cashiers at the bank expect tips even when you deposit a large sum of money? Do conductors get tips when they the PSV takes you from one point to another? Tipping isn't mandatory, and it makes a business to lose revenue from potential customers, through such discrimination. You pay for a service charge in a restaurant and are still expected to tip generously. That's double tipping for you. And if you don't frequent the place, then again, why tip?. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Its very sad that this is happening to us IN OUR OWN COUNTRY! I will pay them a visit this weekend and see how they treat me. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:Can you imagine a restaurant in a top mall in a city in Europe, and run by black Kenyans, refusing to serve middle class Europeans because they asked for 8 croissants and also because they are WHITE?? It would be closed that same hour and the owner deported. Why are Kenyans allowing themselves mistreated in their own country? You are mistreated abroad and even at home? I am bleeding inside from hearing this claims! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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A service charge is sometimes added to bills in restaurants and similar establishments. Tipping may not be expected when a fee is explicitly charged for the service.
I am confident that our bills include service charge, so when we tip we are double tipping.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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MWAFRIKA! wewe ni wa nani kama unadhulumiwa kwenu? WEWE NI WA NANI? you will forgive me but this story has disturbed me so so much! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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King G wrote:Negative publicity yet the place is always full. poor Kenyans and trying hard to identify. nothing will change much. why with the afro-pessimism? I am sad that people like you don't see this as a problem. hii kitu imenisinya hata nimeshindwa ku-focus kazini... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Feel like going to chokoza.
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