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ArtCafe being taken apart in the social media.
customer
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:26:18 PM
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Is this true?

ArtCaffe is all being taken apart all over the social media being accused of racism.

I pity the PR guy there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNBkkfZCQAAEGBQ.jpg


Check this tag #RACISTArtCafe

http://www.tripadvisor.c...fe-Nairobi.html#REVIEWS

I don't want to reach the end of my life and find I just lived the length of it.

I want to find I have lived it's breadth as well.
accelriskconsult
#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:55:35 PM
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customer wrote:
Is this true?

ArtCaffe is all being taken apart all over the social media being accused of racism.

I pity the PR guy there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNBkkfZCQAAEGBQ.jpg


Check this tag #RACISTArtCafe

http://www.tripadvisor.c...fe-Nairobi.html#REVIEWS



They should ask the owner whether it is policy. The damn thing is probably a front for other activities any way based on the rumors that I have heard about its ownership
dunkang
#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:20:54 PM
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This Art Caffe must be notorious.This is a story done in February 2013.

Quote:
“ Wow I heard about racist service but didn't believe it until now ”
6 Mar 2013 Robert D

I met 4 Kenyan friends for lunch in January at Art Caffe. They were little reluctant to meet at Art Caffe claiming they always get terrible service because they are Kenyans. I did not belive it until I saw it with my own eyes. My friends were little ahead of me as I was fininshing my phone call. They walked in and two hostesses ignored them completely and were busy talking to each other. When one of my friend asked for a table they looked at her and went back to talking to each other without answering her. They finally told them it would be a wait for a table. My friends waited by the counter without anyone bothering to see if they needed anything. I decided to watch from outside while I finished my phone call. When I walked in few minutes later both girls jumped up and were all over me wanted to help. I asked for a table of 5 and was shown to a table
immediately without a wait. My friends joined me with I told you you so grin on their face. When our meal was done they gave me the bill. I guess because I am a Mzungu they expect me to pay for my poor Kenyan friends who happens to be much better off then myself. I am totally embarrased that there's still place like this that treat locals poorly and treat white/Asian face better because of the color of the skin. Management & owners better get a grip on this as we are only a visitor in their country.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

customer
#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:44:47 PM
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And here goes another customer:

Quote.
umzo » Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:18 am
“Racism and selective discrimination at Art Caffe”
1 of 5 stars Reviewed 20 February 2013

This is my friends experience and enough to warrant me NEVER TO GO THERE! and its been shared across social media (Facebook) and I to went through the same nonsense and said to myself...maybe its a bad day but this got me thinking....no...they've done it again. ..!!! so here's what she had to say.. "The worst form of discrimination is when you are discriminated against by one of your own!! So I go to Art Caffe, Westgate, and I find lots of tables at the terrace 'reserved'. I ask if I can get one of them and I'm told 'sorry, they are reserved'. So no sweat, I sit in one of the high tables. My (white) date comes and I see him being ushered to one of the 'reserved' tables. I go over to one join him and sit. I tell him 'I didnt know you had reserved a table? I'd have asked for it' And he says 'No I hadnt reserved. Just walked in and was directed to this table'. Seriously!!!!"

Visited February 2013

http://nipate.com/viewto...amp;t=28918&p=224923
I don't want to reach the end of my life and find I just lived the length of it.

I want to find I have lived it's breadth as well.
Meduza
#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:47:12 PM
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This doesnt surprise...Many hotels behave the same...plus there is also the training to waiters get. They think Africans cant afford that type of food, or shouldnt be there.
You cant win, unless you first begin....
kysse
#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:23:17 PM
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Let those being discriminated upon feel the heat.
We kenyans are very naive,afraid to speak in public and point a mistake.I always see people recoil instead of demanding for their rights.
We'd rather pay to endure.
If I am not well received,I simply stand up, call the waiter diplomatically and infront of the 'guests' demand to know why my order is being ignored or ask firmly in his face,if I should pay to reserve seat-See he doesn't know who you are,probably a judge with a liking for pinching noses.
And after it's brought,I pay without eating it(he may have stirred your soup using his dirty finger or sneezed on it out of anger).I then walk out with swag never to return.

webish
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:16:38 PM
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kysse wrote:
Let those being discriminated upon feel the heat.

And after it's brought,I pay without eating it(he may have stirred your soup using his dirty finger or sneezed on it out of anger).I then walk out with swag never to return.



Haha.

Life is joy, death is peace, but the transition is very difficult.
webish
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:21:46 PM
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Meduza wrote:
This doesnt surprise...Many hotels behave the same...plus there is also the training to waiters get. They think Africans cant afford that type of food, or shouldnt be there.


Very True.

Life is joy, death is peace, but the transition is very difficult.
kiash
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:24:26 PM
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Haha it’s sad that when one is abroad, you get such treatment and then when home you get the same treatment only that this time it’s from a fellow Kenyan black for that matter. Peana tips hata kama service ni bogus mtapata better treatment , I once had an experience with a ranger in some park who after guarding the group watching some animals stood in front and asked in a big voice tip for the ranger people . Watu wakarudi mfuko. Most people in the hotel industry think that is their right.
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