Exactment!!!

Look @Mc, I asked you some question before and you didn't answer.

You see, Muslims tell you that this or that is wrong or right
You it is true what we tell you. But you just refuse to accept. If you can just stop for a moment and think.

Who are these
...who looked that women are good and took some of them. Which God generation is this?

Read here... Mwanzo 6:1-6
- Watu walipoanza kuongezeka idadi katika uso wa dunia na watoto wa kike wakazaliwa kwao,
- wana wa Mungu wakawaona kuwa hao binti za wanadamu walikuwa wazuri wa sura, wakaoa ye yote miongoni mwao waliyemchagua.

Look at this
...is it this really God who said a man will only live 120 years?

Read it here Mwanzo 6:1-6
- Ndipo BWANA akasema, "Roho yangu haitakaa ndani ya mwanadamu milele, kwa kuwa yeye ni wa kufa, siku zake zitakuwa miaka 120."

If God said 120, then and who kept others live longer?
- Why did Isack live 150 years?
- We are told Abraham lived 175

Read it here... Mwanzo 35:27
- ...Isaki aliishi miaka 180.

Some things said by people about God
...do not fit God at all!

Isaiah 7:20
- Katika siku ile Bwana atatumia wembe ulioajiriwa..
- kunyoa nywele za kichwa chako, malaika ya miguu yako na kuziondoa ndevu zako pia.

From whom is God going to borrow the razer blade from?

We need to know what is wrong

Yeremiah 4:10
- Prophet is telling God that you've lied. It's not God to tell lie.
- Ndipo niliposema, "Aa, BWANA Mwenyezi, umewadanganyaje kabisa watu hawa na Yerusalemu kwa kusema, ‘Mtakuwa na amani,’ wakati upanga uko kwenye makoo yetu!"

Look at the following
Can a human being wake up God, when God is asleep?

Zaburi 44:23
- Amka, Ee BWANA,! kwa nini unalala? Zinduka! Usitukatae milele.

How can God be foolish?
God has no attributes like this?
God says painful punishment for those write by their own hands saying this is from God.

1 Wakorinto 1:25
- Kwa maana upumbavu wa Mungu una hekima zaidi kuliko hekima ya wanadamu

Can God really be defeated by tankers of war
...and military jets?

Judges 1:19
- BWANA alikuwa pamoja na watu wa Yuda.
- Wakaimiliki nchi ya vilima, lakini hawakuweza kuwafukuza watu waliokaa katika hiyo tambarare,
- kwa sababu walikuwa na magari ya chuma.

Can God fight with human on a wrestling match
...and loose the match?

Genesis 32:24
- Kwa hiyo Yakobo akaachwa peke yake na mtu mmoja akashikana naye mweleka mpaka mapambazuko.
- Yule mtu alipoona kuwa hawezi kumshinda, aligusa kiungio cha nyonga ya Yakobo kwa hiyo nyonga
- yake ikateguka wakati alipokuwa akishikana mweleka na yule mtu.
- Ndipo yule mtu akasema, ‘‘Niache niende, kwa kuwa ni mapambazuko.’’
- Lakini Yakobo akajibu, ‘‘Sitakuacha uende usiponibariki.’’
- Yule mtu akamwuliza, ‘‘Jina lako nani?’’ Akajibu, ‘‘Yakobo.’’
- Ndipo yule mtu akasema, ‘‘Jina lako halitakuwa tena Yakobo, bali Israeli, kwa sababu umeshindana na Mungu na watu pia nawe umeshinda.’’
- Yakobo akasema, ‘‘Tafadhali niambie jina lako.’’
- Lakini akajibu, ‘‘Kwa nini kuniuliza jina langu?’’ Ndipo akambariki huko.
- Kwa hiyo Yakobo akapaita mahali pale Penielic, akasema,
- ‘‘Ni kwa sababu nimemwona Mungu uso kwa uso na bado maisha yangu yameokoka."

@tycho and @Mc, please see my point...

You even claim that a great prophet of God was involved in shameful acts
Genesis 9:20
- Noa akawa mkulima, akawa mtu wa kwanza kupanda mizabibu.
- Alipokunywa huo mvinyo wake akalewa na akalala uchi kwenye hema lake.

Another one, God blessed children born out of incest!
Genesis 19:30
- Loti na binti zake wawili waliondoka Soari na kufanya makao yao kule milimani, kwa maana aliogopa kukaa Soari.
- Yeye na binti zake wawili waliishi katika pango.

God inspire these 1st class pornography?
Song of song 1:13 (Wimbo uliobora)
- Mpenzi wangu kwangu mimi ni kifuko cha manemane kati ya matiti yangu.
- Mpenzi wangu kwangu mimi ni kama kishada cha maua ya mhina yaliyochanua kutoka mashamba ya mizabibu ya En- Gedi.
- Tazama jinsi ulivyo mzuri, mpenzi wangu!
- Tazama jinsi ulivyo mzuri!
- Macho yako ni kama ya hua.

Song of song 3:1 (Wimbo uliobora)
- Usiku kucha kwenye kitanda changu nilimtafuta yule moyo wangu umpendaye,
- nilimtafuta huyo mwanaume lakini sikumpata.
- Sasa nitaondoka na kuzunguka mjini, kupitia katika barabara zake na viwanjani,
- nitamtafuta yule moyo wangu umpendaye.

There are no words like the above in the Quran
Quran 5:48
- And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad ) the Book (this Qur'an) in truth,
- confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures).
- So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires,
- diverging away from the truth that has come to you.
- To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way.
- If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you;
- so strive as in a race in good deeds.
- The return of you (all) is to Allah;
- then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.

You cannot change what people have done. But you can change yourself.
Realize that they way on which you're troding is leading astray, falsehood. Realize that that way you're walking is corrupted...
If you can see a better way, change course.

That's all I'm saying to you.

If I'm seeing those verses wrongly, please interpret them for me.

Tell me the moral of those stories there. I'm waiting...

AlphDoti, would you say that there are some human acts and experiences that shouldn't be disclosed?

Or is that there are some humans who never engage in 'shameful' acts? Is the infallible man suddenly appearing in Islam?

We are using words like 'shameful', and assert that God cannot reveal the 'shameful' in even the great prophets. Can such an assertion really be justified? If yes, then there's no 'straight path' to follow; even Islam will be a lie in such a case.

The erotic conversation, when driven by love, is the highest form of conversation that humans can have. This is because such a conversation includes humanity's encounter with God.

Why do you insist that all people must experience a symbol in the same way? Why are people so many? Because there are so many reasons, and experiences. Yet all are one, and God is one. Thus the Scripture can't be tailored to suit your sensibility but to encounter it and lead to truth.

AlphDoti, I am sure you'll never fail to find reason to quarrel your wife if you are intent on it. Even a smile will be called a sneer.

That's the situation of our conversation. This is all a pretext. It's a justification of how and where we work, how we live, our secrets and the like.

It's a waste of time. Blasphemy.