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Kenya Airways FY 2012/13 after tax loss of 7.8bn
mwekez@ji
#21 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 11:28:09 AM
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selah wrote:
How is this company going to pay for the 22B current liabilities.This company is going to be sold or liquidated at this rate.


Its actually 50B. ... They borrowed 30B (short term borrowing)to finance the aircrafts (long term assets). who does that
dunkang
#22 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 11:47:46 AM
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The huge loss is not the problem to me, i expected worse, the share price is what is unbelivable. I was expecting by this time it be competing with Mumias in the sub 6s.
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mwanahisa
#23 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 11:54:19 AM
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Would this not point to the possibility of another cash call further down the line. Failing that the company will have to try and get the loans to be rescheduled. Given the current less than stellar financial position of the company, I wonder how receptive banks/lenders are going to be about this.

A cash call (read rights issue) is not exactly an option that will be taken kindly by the markets given the hit that the NAV of the company has suffered over the last 2 years.

In my view, they should borrow a leaf from ARM/Centum and issue a convertible bond, given that long term investors may see some value from a recovery play.

mwekez@ji wrote:
selah wrote:
How is this company going to pay for the 22B current liabilities.This company is going to be sold or liquidated at this rate.


Its actually 50B. ... They borrowed 30B (short term borrowing)to finance the aircrafts (long term assets). who does that

hisah
#24 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 11:59:42 AM
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dunkang wrote:
The huge loss is not the problem to me, i expected worse, the share price is what is unbelivable. I was expecting by this time it be competing with Mumias in the sub 6s.

Give it time. Remember KK after the shock news. Same script. A test of supply will come to shakeout the stubborn wanjikus.
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Impunity
#25 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 12:38:22 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
This thing will be blue again by September this year, hear me.


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ... dispense Naikuni and his mawingu illusion


This thing is moving up, only if you guys knew!!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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MaichBlack
#26 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 12:52:40 PM
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Impunity wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
This thing will be blue again by September this year, hear me.


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ... dispense Naikuni and his mawingu illusion


This thing is moving up, only if you guys knew!!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Of course there is on need to state the reason/reasoning. @Impunity said it is so. It must be so! Where are the manners of Wazuans??? How can they ignore such an important "fundamental"?
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
mwekez@ji
#27 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 1:30:15 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
This thing will be blue again by September this year, hear me.


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ... dispense Naikuni and his mawingu illusion


This thing is moving up, only if you guys knew!!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Of course there is on need to state the reason/reasoning. @Impunity said it is so. It must be so! Where are the manners of Wazuans??? How can they ignore such an important "fundamental"?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @impunity, only if we knew what¿ ¿
mwekez@ji
#28 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 1:33:55 PM
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@mwanahisa, You present a logical case. .... Then their debt/equity ratio will become nasty and the finance cost will bite hard and before long, doom...

mwanahisa wrote:
Would this not point to the possibility of another cash call further down the line. Failing that the company will have to try and get the loans to be rescheduled. Given the current less than stellar financial position of the company, I wonder how receptive banks/lenders are going to be about this.

A cash call (read rights issue) is not exactly an option that will be taken kindly by the markets given the hit that the NAV of the company has suffered over the last 2 years.

In my view, they should borrow a leaf from ARM/Centum and issue a convertible bond, given that long term investors may see some value from a recovery play.

mwekez@ji wrote:
selah wrote:
How is this company going to pay for the 22B current liabilities.This company is going to be sold or liquidated at this rate.


Its actually 50B. ... They borrowed 30B (short term borrowing)to finance the aircrafts (long term assets). who does that


mwekez@ji
#29 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 1:43:11 PM
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ulcers centre …. @obiero must be at the ICU
InnovateGuy
#30 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2013 1:48:05 PM
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Clearly,something is so wrong with the strategy KQ is adopting. Was thinking of sinking a few coins in this direction, but will have to wait.

ION, KQ is a good buy for those thinking past 2016. At Kshs. 10, the share price is a good bargain!
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