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Meduza
#51 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 6:25:24 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ?



We would like to pay more but sometimes its not affordable. I believe in treating a house girl well. she takes care of my most treasured asset...My daughter, so treating her like part of the family is the key not like a slave.
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Tokyo
#52 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:22:06 PM
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Meduza wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ?



We would like to pay more but sometimes its not affordable. I believe in treating a house girl well. she takes care of my most treasured asset...My daughter, so treating her like part of the family is the key not like a slave.


Exactly; but bear in mind you might be ruining innocent underage girls life.
The best solution is baby care units. Your kids handled professionally . It's cheap, reliable and secure. Dropouts will be reduced as well
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#53 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:42:55 AM
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Hmmmm,there has been a rise in daycares.
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#54 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:52:17 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Meduza wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ?



We would like to pay more but sometimes its not affordable. I believe in treating a house girl well. she takes care of my most treasured asset...My daughter, so treating her like part of the family is the key not like a slave.


Exactly; but bear in mind you might be ruining innocent underage girls life.
The best solution is baby care units. Your kids handled professionally . It's cheap, reliable and secure. Dropouts will be reduced as well


Do these babycare units pick up 2month old babies by 6am when most people leave for work? and what about exposure to the cold morning weather?plus what if the baby is still sleeping, i have to wake her up early and prepare her for "babycare"? Or what are you suggesting?
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#55 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:02:52 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ?


Just for the record,kindergarten teachers especially in government schools do not earn more than 6 - 10K....and remember they have to arrange their own accommodation,food etc. Only very good private schools pay them well..Infact I know one who used to get 3K via mpesa @end month and the other 3K in installments during the next month
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#56 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:11:52 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ?

Provided their skill and training level is commensurate to that of a kindergarten teacher. Most of them are trained on the job. Maybe we qualify for some sort of training levy. Some of them make costly mistakes..and we're not just talking property here.
Plus, this is not a western country. TIA. Let the domestic technician decide whether S/he wants to stay where they are at in life, or to begin the journey climbing out of poverty by working.
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ChumsQuest
#57 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:00:54 PM
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XSK wrote:
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I don't think this is a good move and the house helps are the ones to suffer because you'll only need then on a full time basis when you have a new born after that you'll only need a mama for washing the house and clothes once a week for 400/-. Everyone will have a part-time housi who has to go get her own food and accommodation.


Largely true.

The extra cash you will pay them will require them to get a house somewhere. It may not be practical for most part.

It will boil down to your agreement with the individual pay them the stipulated minimum and ask them to find own accomodation or stay with the employer but at a lesser pay.

In a nutshell employers will need to consider the cost of housing and feeding them as part of the pay!!!

Ditto! And if they insist they will not report this you can have them sign an agreement that they agree to the terms of payment witnessed by a lawyer...this is to protect you in the long run.. The tumboches turn to angry cats when they have met a kahousy and need to depart from your home...
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mukiha
#58 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:10:26 PM
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Our maid has a maid looking after her kid while she is at work. Can our maid afford sh7,500 minimum wage for her maid?

The assumption that employers can afford the minimum wages is totally wrong.

Supply and demand dynamics are also at play. There is a large supply of maids---if you announce that you are looking for one to be paid sh3,500, you will get very may interested! Mind you this is less than half the minimum wage.

So, we have a majority of employers who can't afford the 7k and many wokers willing to take half that amount. In short, both just scoff at Atwoli and the Minister for Labour and tell them to continue dreaming!

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McReggae
#59 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:44:02 PM
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mukiha wrote:
Our maid has a maid looking after her kid while she is at work. Can our maid afford sh7,500 minimum wage for her maid?
The assumption that employers can afford the minimum wages is totally wrong.

Supply and demand dynamics are also at play. There is a large supply of maids---if you announce that you are looking for one to be paid sh3,500, you will get very may interested! Mind you this is less than half the minimum wage.

So, we have a majority of employers who can't afford the 7k and many wokers willing to take half that amount. In short, both just scoff at Atwoli and the Minister for Labour and tell them to continue dreaming!



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Dash
#60 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:01:33 PM
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new investor wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ?


Just for the record,kindergarten teachers especially in government schools do not earn more than 6 - 10K....and remember they have to arrange their own accommodation,food etc. Only very good private schools pay them well..Infact I know one who used to get 3K via mpesa @end month and the other 3K in installments during the next month

I don't think Tokyo lives in Kenya
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