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North is not up!
masukuma
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:32:35 PM
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The original "blue marble" photo looked like this originally but was changed to reflect the 'north = up' lie.

... North is not UP!
checkout the link on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_map
No wonder we call europe and america ... MA-JUU!!

Size of Africa...

remember the maps we used when growing up? Greenland was almost the size of Africa? I actually considered denmark the largest country (greenland being its territory and all).

interesting video from the west wing on this
http://www.youtube.com/w...edded&v=n8zBC2dvERM

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masukuma
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:39:38 PM
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these things have been messing up with our minds for many years!
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Mukiri
#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:03:47 PM
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Eh? Are you saying Africa is the size of all those countries?

Proverbs 19:21
Lolest!
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:07:53 PM
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...and north is not necessarily higher. Thus the reference of the northern part of former Eastern province as 'upper eastern' with the southern as lower eastern is erroneous.
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masukuma
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:31:15 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
...and north is not necessarily higher. Thus the reference of the northern part of former Eastern province as 'upper eastern' with the southern as lower eastern is erroneous.

indeed - it has sneaked up on us!
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masukuma
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:37:18 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Eh? Are you saying Africa is the size of all those countries?

yes! Congo is larger that western europe... all countries combined!

we used the Mercator projection that depicted the sphere that is our globe 'wrongly'
this is it

the Gall-peters projection tells things for what they really are
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masukuma
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:44:30 PM
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halafu we are lied to that 'population' is our problem.
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Mukiri
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:55:45 PM
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Mind detailing the sizes eg
Asia - 44.6M SqKMs
Africa - 30M SqKMs
North America - 24.6M SqKMs
South America - 17.8M SqKMs
Antarctica - 13.2M SqKMs
Europe - 9.9M SqKMs
Australia/Oceania - 8M SqKMs

My only question would be why does Asia, with only 10M more sq kms have 60% of the worlds population? And four times that of Africa? Is it coz the English never colonized them?

Proverbs 19:21
masukuma
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:03:30 PM
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to put things in perspective

the total population of all those countries in the map
China 1,354,040,000
India 1,210,569,573
USA 316,031,000
Japan 127,300,000
Germany 80,327,900
France 65,657,000
Spain 47,059,533
UK 63,181,775
Eastern Europe: 190,000,000
total: 3,454,166,781

Africa's population: 1.033 billion
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masukuma
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:19:38 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Mind detailing the sizes eg
Asia - 44.6M SqKMs
Africa - 30M SqKMs
North America - 24.6M SqKMs
South America - 17.8M SqKMs
Antarctica - 13.2M SqKMs
Europe - 9.9M SqKMs
Australia/Oceania - 8M SqKMs

My only question would be why does Asia, with only 10M more sq kms have 60% of the worlds population? And four times that of Africa? Is it coz the English never colonized them?


possibly disease!
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bkismat
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:56:57 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Mind detailing the sizes eg
Asia - 44.6M SqKMs
Africa - 30M SqKMs
North America - 24.6M SqKMs
South America - 17.8M SqKMs
Antarctica - 13.2M SqKMs
Europe - 9.9M SqKMs
Australia/Oceania - 8M SqKMs

My only question would be why does Asia, with only 10M more sq kms have 60% of the worlds population? And four times that of Africa? Is it coz the English never colonized them?


possibly disease!

Ten's of millions healthy Africans transported across the Atlantic into the 'New World' for nearly 400 years.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:54:30 PM
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What T*&%$#*! Aha moment! Japan that size produces all these cars, electronics on the African roads/houses and the scrap metal everywhere in a Africa to boot?
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:57:54 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Mind detailing the sizes eg
Asia - 44.6M SqKMs
Africa - 30M SqKMs
North America - 24.6M SqKMs
South America - 17.8M SqKMs
Antarctica - 13.2M SqKMs
Europe - 9.9M SqKMs
Australia/Oceania - 8M SqKMs

My only question would be why does Asia, with only 10M more sq kms have 60% of the worlds population? And four times that of Africa? Is it coz the English never colonized them?


When I first saw this i even started doubting the sizes...who took them, how sure are we that they are accurate?
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:06:13 PM
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And Black is neither cursed nor inferior.

The whole world is Afrika.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:17:25 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
...and north is not necessarily higher. Thus the reference of the northern part of former Eastern province as 'upper eastern' with the southern as lower eastern is erroneous.

indeed - it has sneaked up on us!


I have always wondered how the longest river on Earth, River Nile flows "Uphill" from Lake Sango all the way up to to the Mediterranean.
Now I know why!!!!!
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:30:42 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Mind detailing the sizes eg
Asia - 44.6M SqKMs
Africa - 30M SqKMs
North America - 24.6M SqKMs
South America - 17.8M SqKMs
Antarctica - 13.2M SqKMs
Europe - 9.9M SqKMs
Australia/Oceania - 8M SqKMs

My only question would be why does Asia, with only 10M more sq kms have 60% of the worlds population? And four times that of Africa? Is it coz the English never colonized them?


possibly disease!

Why population of India and China is comparatively high:
.They were able to discover medicine for most of common diseases long ago, hence low mortality rates
.Due to hostility of Muslims and the fact that Africa was conjoined to Asia, Europeans could not reach India / China on a massive scale till 15th Century. Their populations were thus preserved from the disruptive Europeans
.Their Society was more homogeneous hence less internal conflicts = less mortality rates
.There were fewer wild animals = less mortality rates
.They were not transported to other continents as slaves
Africa was the exact opposite till 20th century; slave trade took away a huge chunk of healthy population.
Native Americans were wiped out by European diseases
masukuma
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:38:31 PM
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Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
...and north is not necessarily higher. Thus the reference of the northern part of former Eastern province as 'upper eastern' with the southern as lower eastern is erroneous.

indeed - it has sneaked up on us!


I have always wondered how the longest river on Earth, River Nile flows "Uphill" from Lake Sango all the way up to to the Mediterranean.
Now I know why!!!!!
Not talking Not talking Not talking Not talking


When I was in std 4 , I actually believed it was the other way round! water flowed from the Mediterranean 'down' to Lake Sango! I wondered how the salt disappeared. Later I was informed that it flowed 'from the bottom of the page to the top' and it completely blew my mind! Of course later I realized the world did not have an 'top' or 'bottom' but the damage had been done.

Think about it... in the great expanse of space - there is no north, no south, no east and no west! no horizontal and no vertical. no top and no bottom! no point of reference to deduce these directional things!
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masukuma
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:40:22 PM
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limanika wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Mind detailing the sizes eg
Asia - 44.6M SqKMs
Africa - 30M SqKMs
North America - 24.6M SqKMs
South America - 17.8M SqKMs
Antarctica - 13.2M SqKMs
Europe - 9.9M SqKMs
Australia/Oceania - 8M SqKMs

My only question would be why does Asia, with only 10M more sq kms have 60% of the worlds population? And four times that of Africa? Is it coz the English never colonized them?


possibly disease!

Why population of India and China is comparatively high:
.They were able to discover medicine for most of common diseases long ago, hence low mortality rates
.Due to hostility of Muslims and the fact that Africa was conjoined to Asia, Europeans could not reach India / China on a massive scale till 15th Century. Their populations were thus preserved from the disruptive Europeans
.Their Society was more homogeneous hence less internal conflicts = less mortality rates
.There were fewer wild animals = less mortality rates
.They were not transported to other continents as slaves
Africa was the exact opposite till 20th century; slave trade took away a huge chunk of healthy population.
Native Americans were wiped out by European diseases

in the scheme of things Native Americans received the short end of the stick! Heck people even forget about them!
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masukuma
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:02:24 PM
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Our kin were killed left right centre by
1. Slave trade - during
- the capturing
- the transportation
- the seasoning
- the hate crimes

some were hung as seen, some were burnt and shot.
considering at one point africans were more than any other group of persons in the US (19.3% of the population in 1790). the fact that the country with the second largest of Africans IS NOT IN AFRICA should point to the magnitude of the slave trade. Remember these are people who were robbed of everything including their humanity.
2. colonialism
not sure how to start. 8 million people killed in Congo in 20 years. if your were not shot, you became displaced.


Indeed if you want to deprive and disenfanchise people - start with 'seconds'.
If I could quote Chimamanda Adichie...
Chimamanda Adichie wrote:

if you want to dispossess a people, the simplest way to do it is to tell their story and to start with, "secondly." Start the story with the arrows of the Native Americans, and not with the arrival of the British, and you have an entirely different story. Start the story with the failure of the African state, and not with the colonial creation of the African state, and you have an entirely different story.

Say Africans are cursed - look at their poverty and disease it must be their skin!

I think its admirable that we are picking up 'in spite of our history'
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masukuma
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:11:26 PM
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a quotation from the African holocaust.
African Holocaust wrote:

It is estimated that 40 -100 million people were directly affected by slavery via the Atlantic, Arabian and Trans-Saharan routes.
Some historians conclude that the total loss in persons removed, those who died on the arduous march to coastal slave marts and those killed in slave raids, exceeded the 65–75 million inhabitants remaining Africa at the trade's end. Over 10 million died as direct consequences of the Atlantic slave trade alone. But no one knows the exact number: Many died in transport, others died from diseases or indirectly from the social trauma left behind in Africa. Not only was Transatlantic Slavery of demographic significance, in the aggregate population losses but also in the profound changes to settlement patterns, epidemiological exposure and reproductive and social development potential. And prehaps one profound difference between Arab and European systems was that Africa's development potential was being experienced outside of Africa, as opposed to inside Africa.


its actually a miracle that 'WE ARE STILL HERE!'
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