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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,361 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@thedeal - LOL, Trading Desks have multiple roles. The trading in this case [according to KK] is not supplying in local currencies but sourcing & delivering [all US$ based]. As for expertise, I believe they are among the best in the region. " Trading desk not needed since i think KK does not have the expertise at the moment to engage in such a business" LOL... At the next AGM, I will mention that they should do what YOU "think" they have expertise in Interesting what is KK's reporting ccy? I thought all $ earnings have to be converted to KES? Reporting CCY is KES. No, all $ earnings do not have to be converted to KES. That would be stupid. KK like banks, other firms or even individuals can leave $ (or any other currency) earnings in any currency they choose. As an net importer, KK is better off keeping all earnings in $ remain in $ since they will need it to pay for oil imports. Many net exporters also keep some of their earnings in $ (or other forex) to pay for imports e.g. Williamson imports machinery, fertilizer, pays for technical services, shipping, etc Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,361 Location: Nairobi
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And forget KK for a moment. Other OMCs pissed off at KPRL. http://www.standardmedia...oil-supplies-in-jeopardyGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Stinks badly this one. Wondering how many politicians are involved in the oil market... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,194 Location: nairobi
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http://m.youtube.com/wat...FI&fulldescription=1"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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normal BIDS 572,600 Quantity Price Splits Time 500 9.80 1 10:16:34 13,500 9.70 2 10:16:34 10,000 9.60 1 10:16:34 22,000 9.50 3 10:16:34 11,400 9.40 3 10:16:34 ASKS 585,800 Quantity Price Splits Time 74,900 9.90 3 10:16:34 89,500 10.00 3 10:16:34 10,000 10.15 1 10:16:34 1,300 10.25 2 10:16:34 14,000 10.30 2 10:16:34 TRADES Quantity Price Time 50,000 9.90 09:54:53 7,500 9.90 09:54:53 50,000 9.95 09:47:19 50,100 9.95 09:47:19 19,000 9.90 09:38:48
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,824 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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mlennyma wrote:http://m.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&gl=KE&v=9jJoPpddVFI&fulldescription=1 @VVS, you never fight the government, it always has something to pin you down. Ask Africa's richest man Dangote. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,194 Location: nairobi
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If you thought nyoike was the problem you were wrong. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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Already major oil marketers are threatening not to abide by Petroleum (Amendment) Rules 2012, under Legal Notice No 24, that requires them to buy 40 per cent of their stock from the Mombasabased KPRL. They claim the aging and inefficient equipment at the facility,coowned by the government and India’s Essar Oil on 50-50 basis, is piling costs due to poor products. “All marketers have not signed the off-take agreements for next month,” said a chief executive of one of the major nine companies that control 86.4 per cent share in a market with over 70 players. This could throw the country into a crisis as all citizens regardless of their socio-economic status directly or indirectly rely on petroleum products for survival. Industry players on April 19, through the Oil Industry Supply Coordination Committee, wrote a joint letter to the Government demanding efficiencies at the refinery. They also demanded compensation of Sh7 billion arising from operational inefficiencies at the facility following an audit report by Deloitte that has nonetheless been disowned by KPRL. http://www.thepeople.co....-sitting-on-a-time-bomb/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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The crisis at the Kenya Petroleum Refinery Limited (KPRL) is set to deepen with the scheduled arrival of another ship carrying crude oil later this week. Already, three other ships are waiting in the high seas to discharge fuel at the Kipevu Oil Terminal (KOT) but cannot do so because there is no space. The Changamwe plant has already been switched off because all storage tanks are full after boycott by oil marketing companies. The closure has sparked off protests from workers and residents of Changamwe led by area MP Omar Mwinyi. www.thepeople.co.ke/4323...r-ship-with-oil-arrives/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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@VVS, you are extremely persuasive with your deep yet succinct analysis of KENOL/KOBIL and indeed the downstream oil market.
Nonetheless, after attending the KK AGM, I was left with the distinct impression that KK WILL report a 1/2 year loss and possibly a full year loss, notwithstanding improvements that have been made so far. I doubt that the sale of assets will have happened in H1 and that appeared to be the only source of "profits" that could materialize in H1.
This is given that Segman and his CFO admitted that Q1 was a net loss position given the fact that some of the hedging losses continued into Q1 2013, not to mention the huge financing costs that the company continues to incur to date.
Granted, I can see that KK is now in recovery mode, but I reckon that a further loss will continue to dampen the spirits of KK investors and would be investors. The fact that Segman came out clearly that there are currently no negotiations for the sale of a stake in KK will also serve to deter speculative investors getting in to cash in on takeover talk.
This has clearly been demonstrated by the steady decline in the share price since the AGM. For this reason, I stand by my previous buying level of Kshs 9 and below, given the fact that any buyers will most likely have to be prepared for an earnings/dividends famine until next year.
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