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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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Random thoughts @Ante_Christa, that's all
.maybe your post should be titled confusion in man, in search of God.
..does the answer to your question bring YOU any closer to God?
...what would be a child's answer on where to find God?
....love God above all and your neighbour as yourself!
Come to think of it, if someone asked you who is your father? I mean who really is the man and what makes him tick? You are his kin, but many would say it took a lifetime to really understand him.
Such is life, as long as you choose to take the journey, some things take time. And the journey is more within than without.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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There is no biggy in people laughing at you. In your quest for knowledge you are bound to come many obstacles. The horizontal line is a fair way of looking at 'things'. Bottom line, it all leads to God. The line will illuminate the truth that is the Bible (Adam, Isaac, us) and Muslim's Koran (Adam, Ishmael, us/muslims).
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Tis sad that we are searching for institutions, conventions, and doctrines that will assure us of truth.
It's like clutching at straws.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/7/2013 Posts: 447 Location: Nairobi
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Ante_Christa wrote:Meduza, this is quite interesting.
Imagine a horizontal line.
At the extreme left at the start of the line is Adam.
At the extreme right at the end of the line is us today.
Moving from us today and going back in time as it were, you can put marks or branches along this line showing the start of different religions and churches etc.
Then you have Islam branching out and as you move further back you have christian, then as you go even further you have jewry and so on.
The Christian branch has sub branches and sub sub branches etc. The christian branch is the branch with most twigs.
There is a continuum that I am trying to trace because not all the twigs of this branch are true.
All the other religions are fairly straight forward. There has got to be truth in the christian mish-mash.
It seems no one has given it thought and when I try I am laughed at about searching things of God.
It might be hard to trace because so much has been distorted right from the beginning. So much information has been lost with time. documents lost in fire others still hidden to this date. Alot of original christians believes has been distorted to suit the need in a particular period. Even the assembling of the bible needed to suit a particular time hence the choice of the books we have today. Other had to be destroyed, and the current Catholic church is always afraid of any other book being found and going against their doctrine. You cant win, unless you first begin....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Meduza wrote:Ante_Christa wrote:Meduza, this is quite interesting.
Imagine a horizontal line.
At the extreme left at the start of the line is Adam.
At the extreme right at the end of the line is us today.
Moving from us today and going back in time as it were, you can put marks or branches along this line showing the start of different religions and churches etc.
Then you have Islam branching out and as you move further back you have christian, then as you go even further you have jewry and so on.
The Christian branch has sub branches and sub sub branches etc. The christian branch is the branch with most twigs.
There is a continuum that I am trying to trace because not all the twigs of this branch are true.
All the other religions are fairly straight forward. There has got to be truth in the christian mish-mash.
It seems no one has given it thought and when I try I am laughed at about searching things of God.
It might be hard to trace because so much has been distorted right from the beginning. So much information has been lost with time. documents lost in fire others still hidden to this date. Alot of original christians believes has been distorted to suit the need in a particular period. Even the assembling of the bible needed to suit a particular time hence the choice of the books we have today. Other had to be destroyed, and the current Catholic church is always afraid of any other book being found and going against their doctrine. Where did the prophet go to find the truth? Where can I find Christ? As long as I seek Him out there then I'll never find him. Some will say he is Elijah, some, will say he is a rebel. I must be the Christ. You must be the Christ. 'And you, who do you say I am?' This was beyond even Peter. That's how Jesus knew Peter was going to deny him. Peter had not yet understood the mystery of Christ. And this is the mystery of the ressurection, and of the second coming. See the Essenes waiting for the Messiah? Did they see him? @Ante_C, are you looking for the wise virgins whose oil lasted the vigil? Then you must be one of the foolish ones.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/31/2013 Posts: 109
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You are all misunderstanding me, except Meduza. Tycho is off in a tangent and he is just gone.
I can change the title.
Muganda, I am thinking that if I can find these people, they will help me in my walk with God. A singular brand soon ceases to burn while a bunch of them burns longer.
I need the company hence my search for these elusive people.
Mukiri, I can find God alright. That is not my issue. I can even find Tychos christ if I want to but I dont.
I only want people to associate with not christs.
Meduza says a lot of original christians beliefs have been distorted to suit certain needs in particular periods but isnt there any group of people who at least attempt to preserve these beliefs even with these shortcomings of historical destruction?
Muganda, isnt your church one of them, what about you Mukiri and Meduza? I can come.
Tycho, even to you I can come and chill with you if you are one of them I am looking for.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Ante_Christa wrote:Meduza, this is quite interesting.
Imagine a horizontal line.
At the extreme left at the start of the line is Adam.
At the extreme right at the end of the line is us today.
Moving from us today and going back in time as it were, you can put marks or branches along this line showing the start of different religions and churches etc.
Then you have Islam branching out and as you move further back you have christian, then as you go even further you have jewry and so on.
The Christian branch has sub branches and sub sub branches etc. The christian branch is the branch with most twigs.
There is a continuum that I am trying to trace because not all the twigs of this branch are true.
All the other religions are fairly straight forward. There has got to be truth in the christian mish-mash.
It seems no one has given it thought and when I try I am laughed at about searching things of God.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/31/2013 Posts: 109
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I cannot find the place to change the topic.
I wanted it to read confusion of man in search of Christians.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Ante_Christa wrote:guru267 wrote:Ante_Christa wrote:Surely the remnant exists. I just want it, none else.
Who can direct me to it?
The original organization was the Catholic religion... But this as we all know was Satans tool to divide Gods chosen people! Alright! I now have something to work on. If Catholic is now the remnant organization if I trace it backwards it will be consistent with the apostles, Jesus, Nehemiah and so on? Is there any Catholic here in Wazua to guide me here? By the way, if division in Gods chosen people is a tactic of satan, then logically Gods chosen people must be among these divided peoples right? This rules out Islam as not among Gods chosen people. Just because God's chosen ones were led astray does not mean that no one else can enter the kingdom of heaven. All it means is that Satan was focused on getting God's chosen people to chill with him in hell and in the process left out the Muslims Another argument could be since the world super powers run on Christianity then it would be easy to corrupt the rest. Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Ante_Christa wrote:
You are all misunderstanding me, except Meduza. Tycho is off in a tangent and he is just gone.
I can change the title.
Muganda, I am thinking that if I can find these people, they will help me in my walk with God. A singular brand soon ceases to burn while a bunch of them burns longer.
I need the company hence my search for these elusive people.
Mukiri, I can find God alright. That is not my issue. I can even find Tychos christ if I want to but I dont.
I only want people to associate with not christs.
Meduza says a lot of original christians beliefs have been distorted to suit certain needs in particular periods but isnt there any group of people who at least attempt to preserve these beliefs even with these shortcomings of historical destruction?
Muganda, isnt your church one of them, what about you Mukiri and Meduza? I can come.
Tycho, even to you I can come and chill with you if you are one of them I am looking for.
Hehehe! Tangent? There's no Tycho's Christ. There cannot be. This is where you go off the mark. So whose Christ are you seeking? Of the Church fathers? Were they more pious than the Essenes? Encouragement? Lol. The path is Sparta. But I am slowly becoming an ascetic, a Zen monk perhaps, in the massive Kibra.
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