@Mtu biz, a knee jerk reaction is a mindset; now, how much of what you've said isn't a mindset? Either you don't know, or you are lying to yourself. 'For all have sinned and . . .'

And it isn't about theology, it is about our being transforming the world through action. If you are commercialized as a person then the Gospel is commercialized.

The 'gospel' is now an industry!

That was the reference given by pastors et al during the Groove Awards on Sunday.

Allow me to clarify one thing... ok i'll let the bible speak for itself..

1st Timothy 6:

3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4 they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5 and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it.
8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.
9 Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.
10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

BUT for the christian ??

11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.
12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
13 In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you
14 to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.

This is what I 'think'.

The world knows and recognises it's own.
Laws made by man whom God created are meant to bring order on earth not heaven.
They have no eternal bearing.
But God has also made a provision by giving us the right to choose btwn what is right and wrong because choices have eternal consequences.
He is not ignorant of some silly laws made by us, but He respects the fact that the devil still roams the earth until his time is up.
He respects the Governing Institutions but not the 'funny laws'made by them.
So sio eti God approves gay rights but He leaves us to choose because we appoint the people making those laws.
God has His own Democratic Goverment you know and he wouldn't force us into it unlike the man made one.

By the way,the devil can actually lead one to God.

I like your dissection. What a motivating feeling to know that we are serving one Master, Jesus Christ is His Name.

Can someone tell me who has ever received Jesus in these concerts??