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Ngong wrote:Rollout wrote:@Mtu Biz,
You did not answer my question about ICC, the question is relevant because the church is suppose to provide honest assessments during hard times. Where do you stand on that? I don't think he represents any church going with what he has stated above. So what is his/her opinion about it?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Rollout wrote:Ngong wrote:Rollout wrote:@Mtu Biz,
You did not answer my question about ICC, the question is relevant because the church is suppose to provide honest assessments during hard times. Where do you stand on that? I don't think he represents any church going with what he has stated above. So what is his/her opinion about it? Here is mine, Give Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser and God what is God's. God respects institutions set by men to govern our land cz he is a God of order. He expects us to abide by the law of the land while at the same time recognising that HE is the ultimate judge. Break the law of the land and face judgement approved by God.-no mercies here. Break God's law and redemption is provided. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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Rollout wrote:Ngong wrote:Rollout wrote:@Mtu Biz,
You did not answer my question about ICC, the question is relevant because the church is suppose to provide honest assessments during hard times. Where do you stand on that? I don't think he represents any church going with what he has stated above. So what is his/her opinion about it? hot air balloon I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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essyk wrote:Rollout wrote:Ngong wrote:Rollout wrote:@Mtu Biz,
You did not answer my question about ICC, the question is relevant because the church is suppose to provide honest assessments during hard times. Where do you stand on that? I don't think he represents any church going with what he has stated above. So what is his/her opinion about it? Here is mine, Give Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser and God what is God's. God respects institutions set by men to govern our land cz he is a God of order. He expects us to abide by the law of the land while at the same time recognising that HE is the ultimate judge. Break the law of the land and face judgement approved by God.-no mercies here. Break God's law and redemption is provided.  Come back 'home' sis. Though, in as much as there is redemption, one might be forgiven the sin but suffer the consequence. eg King David's product of illicit sex died, even after his repentance, if you fornicate and get HIV you will receive forgiveness if you ask for it, but suffer the HIV etc
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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From yesternight 'When you live in ignorance, the devil has a field day with you'. (I remembered @ngongoyo when this was said) There is great power in John 8:32 You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Mukiri wrote: Come back 'home' sis. Though, in as much as there is redemption, one might be forgiven the sin but suffer the consequence. eg King David's product of illicit sex died, even after his repentance, if you fornicate and get HIV you will receive forgiveness if you ask for it, but suffer the HIV etc I left home but am still within the compound.Home messed up my life bad.sirudi. On my way to yonderland.  "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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essyk wrote:Mukiri wrote: Come back 'home' sis. Though, in as much as there is redemption, one might be forgiven the sin but suffer the consequence. eg King David's product of illicit sex died, even after his repentance, if you fornicate and get HIV you will receive forgiveness if you ask for it, but suffer the HIV etc I left home but am still within the compound.Home messed up my life bad.sirudi. On my way to yonderland. Its no laughing matter. Its a matter of life and death. Remember the story of Job? Know that salvation does not make you above the devil's attack. If anything, his attacks increase in intensity and frequency. Ours should be an unwaivering believe, faith and trust in God. But if the enemy succeeds in 'stealing' you, he'll gladly lead you to your death. I'll fight to bring you 'back' 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Mukiri wrote: Its a matter of life and death. I'll fight to bring you 'back' Please DON'T! cz I KNOW you will mess me up again and I don't have that luxury.I will never wallow in ignorance again.Besides there is nothing new you will tell me which I haven't heard. By the way I have a phobia for a certain group of people esp gospel 'extremists'.Yet I love God so much. Let's just be,you can't. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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essyk wrote:Mukiri wrote: Its a matter of life and death. I'll fight to bring you 'back' Please DON'T! cz I KNOW you will mess me up again and I don't have that luxury.I will never wallow in ignorance again.Besides there is nothing new you will tell me which I haven't heard. By the way I have a phobia for a certain group of people esp gospel 'extremists'.Yet I love God so much. Let's just be,you can't. There is nothing, NOTHING beyond the God I serve. How long was Israel in captivity? How long was Joseph a prisoner? Daniel with the lions? It is in strife that we should praise the Lord, our God more. You call me an 'extremist'? I know one thing the devil lies is compromise/almost. For me its either right or wrong, no inbetween. My Bible is my guide. That you love God so much, might be enough. Do you love Him enough to obey His word? I shall desist further from 'persuading' you again. Praise be to God.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Mukiri wrote:
There is nothing, NOTHING beyond the God I serve. How long was Israel in captivity? How long was Joseph a prisoner? Daniel with the lions?
It is in strife that we should praise the Lord, our God more. You call me an 'extremist'? I know one thing the devil lies is compromise/almost. For me its either right or wrong, no inbetween. My Bible is my guide.
That you love God so much, might be enough. Do you love Him enough to obey His word? I shall desist further from 'persuading' you again. Praise be to God.
By extremists I mean people who don't balance life. It's gospel 24/7,Church Monday to Sunday. They view everyone else not ascribing to their faith as aliens and refuse to interact,consult and do biz with them. They take their kids to schools where they fellowship only,bank with church owned saccos only,buy goods and services from fellow members only.They have this tight community which suffocates. They actually become cultic in their quest for God. Are you like that? "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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