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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:I have judged some teachers as false, and avoided many 'prophets', when they created arguments and analogies using Bible verses to extol values and habits that have tacitly negated what I have believed to be the truth.
But now I see speech, thought, and interpretation in a different light, and all anger and defensiveness is lost.
But speaking on the authority of books and texts, I can only say that authority is beyond both writer and interpreter, and even time. For example, what is 'Snow white and the seven dwarfs' about? Or stories on 'stone soup' about?
My take is, authority is that which goes into the ancient of days, and the joining link or path, is necessarily narrow, and has everything to do with Man, and God. So marriage and success and wealth and addictions are also included. Where does this leave man god???? On the stony path, McRaggae!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Following. I know that God works in mysterious ways Ecclesiastes 1:5, Jeremiah 33:3, Mark 4:11-12, 1 Corinthians 2:7, Ephesians 3:9, 1 Timothy 3:16, Colossians 2:2-3 To judge others or claim to know everything is dangerous, for it is as Jesus Christ says, the Holy Spirit comes upon you and reveals knowledge. John 14:17 Therefore as you embark on this journey, I pray that you'll not rely on your own understanding Proverbs 3:5 but seek direction from the Holy Spirit. For James 3:1 says that not everyone should presume to be teacher, for they shall receive a stricter judgment; and teachers are targeted more by satan in spiritual warfare. Please read 1 Timothy 3, 2 Timothy 2:24-25, Titus 1:7-16
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Sasa what is so hard to hold your horses guys?
Mtu Biz anza, na focus usiwe distracted na side shows!
The Curtain is raised NOW!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Mtu Biz wrote:Before i delve into what the Gospel is as revealed in the scriptures allow me to say what it is not.
It is not about ...
Human triumph over adversity
Success or the attainment thereof
Self Actualization
Self Esteem
Health and Wealth
Protection from curses,disease,death,poverty etc
Getting a husband or a wife
Having children or a family
Stopping "ungodly" habits e.g drinking,smoking drug use etc
Going to church and or being "active" in church
Before you even start, can you tell us if you are for or against ICC......
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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I find religious discussions really exhausting. I believe religion is very personal. After all, each individual will be solely judged. So I always wonder people fight to portray their religion as the best. Live and let live.
To me, the Gospel is about hope, forgiveness, love and Faith. God acknowledges that i am imperfect due to my human nature and thus he is willing to forgive and accept me whenever I am remorseful. Because i love him, a love spurred through faith, i will treat my fellow men with dignity, and of course I hope for a better eternal life.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Interesting responses. Especially because no one seems to be at war with what the gospel is not.... Quote:
Human triumph over adversity
Success or the attainment thereof
Self Actualization
Self Esteem
Health and Wealth
Protection from curses,disease,death,poverty etc
Getting a husband or a wife
Having children or a family
Stopping "ungodly" habits e.g drinking,smoking drug use etc
Going to church and or being "active" in church
Yet churches are full of people "Getting Saved", "Giving", "In Ministry" etc, because they have been sold one or more of the things i mentioned above.... Anyway.... So what is the Gospel ? ...Had started typing on this when i realized it will be long winded and may lose the simple point im making. Will post the summary tomorrow.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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@Mtu Biz,
You did not answer my question about ICC, the question is relevant because the church is suppose to provide honest assessments during hard times. Where do you stand on that?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Rollout wrote:@Mtu Biz,
You did not answer my question about ICC, the question is relevant because the church is suppose to provide honest assessments during hard times. Where do you stand on that? I don,t think he is the church or a representative of one based on how heave stated above.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Rollout wrote:@Mtu Biz,
You did not answer my question about ICC, the question is relevant because the church is suppose to provide honest assessments during hard times. Where do you stand on that? I don't think he represents any church going with what he has stated above.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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