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How to Deposit Money to PayPal in Kenya
waganagwa
#31 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 9:32:57 AM
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#Alma, following statement from you is totally wrong and misplaced, but again you stated that you were guessing, so no offense. I however suggest that you stop misleading people any further with guess work. Next time try to respond to the issues raised as opposed to beating about the bush with what would otherwise be useful tips to beginners as opposed to using those 'tips' to target a specific entity. We offer many more services to Kenyans than Paypal withdrawals and therefore your prayer of 'closure of ePAY' might not just be answered yet. Stick to objective advise as opposed to dismissing entities based on a technicality. Wazuans can then take you serious.

You have someone send the money to person A, person A then sends the funds to your Account or a number of accounts. You then transfer the funds to your gullible client. You then charge for this service.
That my friend is totally against Paypal TOS. Could that be the reason why your services were shut down sometime this year?

#aemathenge

The information is absolutely misleading and I want to assure you that not a single account has been limited by paypal for using our services. Join us 'roho safi' and you will not be disappointed. Note that Alma's conclusion about us is based on a wrong assumption. Even better, you may just google about us and am sure you will find reviews on several blogs (some of who are not Pro-ePAY). I can assure you that the only thing you will find is people complaining that we are expensive (I have explained why) and you will not come across anyone doubting our integrity. That is a more objective way of finding out more about us (from users) as opposed to reacting to a post by one misinformed Alma who claims to be an 'authority' on such matters but I highly doubt her competence.
akowally
#32 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 10:28:23 AM
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PURE FACTS

@Alma and all followers of the thread. Here's a summary for you

1. ePay-Kenya may not follow 100% of PayPal's detailed TOS's. You know that before you get in.

2. ePay-Kenya protects your account from limitation 100%. In case of anything, they take the fall for you.

3. The internet is not controlled. If ePay-Kenya were a scam, you'd easily pull that up from a simple Google search.

4. ePay-Kenya delivers in minutes - convenience comes at a price

5. ePay-Kenya and FreelancerKenya do not hide anything from you, we tell you the WHOLE truth, and leave you to make your own decision. If you're not cool with ePay, use Payoneer and Vice Versa

6. Look who's talking:

Walter Akolo = Owner FreelancerKenya.com - a Friendly blog that helps people to make money online (a real human being with strengths and weaknesses like you)

Caesar Waganagwa = Owner ePay-Kenya and a string of online enterprises

Alma = No one knows who he/she is

7. No hard feelings. Alma has a right to say whatever she feels. Don't follow any of us blindly.

8. Internet vs River Road, internet is worse, try Googling "KPLC sucks" for example, remember Mirfat of Tujuane. To find a company that's credible on Google search like ePay is a gem. Therefore in internet marketing you don't hide like Alma says, shout from the rooftops and be everywhere.

9. Alma herself agrees that PayPal may not be the best company and it blatantly discriminates against countries. Please please please look for alternatives if you can.

10. Yes, Alma spammed this thread (and I forgave her). This thread is on depositing money to PayPal, which she agreed what I said was accurate. Despite her spamming and outright rudeness, this post has benefited ePay (according to my site traffic analytics), FreelancerKenya (many incoming links and orders) and Wazua (return visits, possible clicks on ads, quality content) and definitely Alma in some way (expressing caution on the internet).

We all stand to win!

Quick internet marketing tips - do something legit, stand your ground and spread your wings all over, stay calm and respectable and you will sell.

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waganagwa
#33 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 10:44:29 AM
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In April last year, Alma posted a very objective comment while reacting to the first post we did announcing ePAY services. I will leave it to readers to make their conclusion. Pay attention to the last sentence.

alma #18 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:24:14 PM
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The idea is great. It is helping Kenyans as our banks are still retarded.

But it would be good to warn those using the system that it is against Paypal terms. That can't be swept under the carpet. At anytime, PayPal can close those accounts.

But I still think its a risk worth taking as none of these other companies want to help Kenyans out online.

alma
#34 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 10:49:16 AM
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You really should know people.

And I was wrong for endorsing your service. As you can see, when I make mistakes, I apologise and move on.

Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
akowally
#35 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 10:59:38 AM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I can't sue you Alma, I respect you and you're a true gem in Wazua. So you're a he smile

Sorry if your PayPal account was limited at some point - I'm sure it wasn't because of ePay-Kenya, I think I vaguely remember what the reason was for.

Good to be on the record that you once endorsed ePay-Kenya, Mr. Alma!!!

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alma
#36 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 11:06:46 AM
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Akowally, now this is becoming a bit personal.

My advice: do not transact Paypal with a company that accepts that it is violating Paypal terms and conditions

Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
waganagwa
#37 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 11:16:05 AM
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#Alma, yes indeed I know you now. Thank you for admitting that you once endorsed our services. It would also be nice to state the exact reason you stopped endorsing us because your pivot point seems to be paypal TOS which you were well aware about even before your first endorsement. That would be more useful to readers. Also next time, such disclosures are made before you are reminded, that way people can take you more serious.
Swahiliguru
#38 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 11:31:02 AM
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Ndugu zangu E-Pay nyie ni wachapakazi waminifu, wepesi na wenye mawasiliano kamilifu na wazi. Ndani ya saa moja huwa nimepata hela zangu kwa hela ya Kenya kutoka kwenye hela ya Dola ya Marekani. Mnatosha na mnafaa. Nani kama nyinyi? Hamna. Hamna. Hamna. Napendekeza huduma hii kwa yeyote asiyependa ukora, ulaghai na wizi kwenye mtandao. Ukiwa na E-Pay, uko salama. Hongereni!
alma
#39 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 11:34:16 AM
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My endorsement of you business was based on little information. As they say, once you dig out a few things about someone, you get to know more about them.

1. You accept in public that you are doing something that is not upfront.

2. You then say that the people doing so should know better

3. You are the same people who own http://www.chuchihosting.com/ I'm sure you aren't selling web hosting to anyone on that site. This is what you've used to pretend to paypal that you are a legit business.

4. You are willing to lie to people that their accounts will never be at risk, yet you forget to mention that in your own forum that accounts can be at risk if you involve yourself in companies like yours that don't follow Paypal TOS

Avoid using service providers who subscribe directly to paypal to withdraw money locally. When paypal catches up with such a provider, your account will also be affected. https://epay-kenya.com/forum/index.php?topic=15.0

5. A quick scan of akowally's blog shows out of the numerous so called great paypal withdrawal methods he's used, only payoneer and yours remain. The others have been shut down. Probably after their accounts were limited by paypal and with clients who probably lost their funds.

Fact: Any company that violates Paypal TOS by engaging in business they expressly refuse is bound sooner rather than later to have their accounts limited
Fact: Dealing with your company for any sort of money exchange is against Paypal TOS
Fact: Your so called clients are likely to lose either their funds with you or have the accounts limited

Now those are the facts. As you say, let the people decide. eish.




Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
akowally
#40 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 11:38:27 AM
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alma wrote:
Akowally, now this is becoming a bit personal.

My advice: do not transact Paypal with a company that accepts that it is violating Paypal terms and conditions



@Alma

Pole sana man. I was responding to the post you put up and then deleted, stating you are not a she and telling me to sue you. I wish I'd used the quote option. I've been here for 5 years and thought you were a she.

Otherwise, you stand by the TOS ground and some guys will follow your advice.

We stand by the reliability, speed and credibility ground (your personal account is protected!) Especially the fact that ePay guys take the risk to help people get their hard earned cash.

We also stand by the fact that people can make their own decisions (Payoneer e.t.c.)

We all agree that there are alternatives to PayPal...me, you, CEO...

Win Win!!!
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