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It was a long time in coming. Long time. Good for Africa. Let the Europeans stay with their ICC. maybe they can call it ECC (European Criminal Court) WHO DARES WINS
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As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? I agree with you 110% we are the same guys who lift up arms against our brothers crude weapons,pangas,machetes,bows and arrows...we never resolve our issues amicably and like gentlemen we turn to hacking each other,those celebrating wouldnt do so if a family member gets killed in such a situation...ICC isnt a solution come up with a better one. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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maka wrote:Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? I agree with you 110% we are the same guys who lift up arms against our brothers crude weapons,pangas,machetes,bows and arrows...we never resolve our issues amicably and like gentlemen we turn to hacking each other,those celebrating wouldnt do so if a family member gets killed in such a situation...ICC isnt a solution come up with a better one. The so called victims voted unanimously for Uhuruto.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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mawinder wrote:maka wrote:Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? I agree with you 110% we are the same guys who lift up arms against our brothers crude weapons,pangas,machetes,bows and arrows...we never resolve our issues amicably and like gentlemen we turn to hacking each other,those celebrating wouldnt do so if a family member gets killed in such a situation...ICC isnt a solution come up with a better one. The so called victims voted unanimously for Uhuruto. Because the country is just screwed, people somehow just refuse to think.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? If you dont see the political twist to this court then I must say you are very naive and blinded by the west koolaid. As for your grammar jamaa bana Kenyans don't write like that. Did the prosecutor of this court carry out investigations or he was carried away by the gossip of the day? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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mawinder wrote:maka wrote:Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? I agree with you 110% we are the same guys who lift up arms against our brothers crude weapons,pangas,machetes,bows and arrows...we never resolve our issues amicably and like gentlemen we turn to hacking each other,those celebrating wouldnt do so if a family member gets killed in such a situation...ICC isnt a solution come up with a better one. The so called victims voted unanimously for Uhuruto. Stupidity is not a defense. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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maka wrote:Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? I agree with you 110% we are the same guys who lift up arms against our brothers crude weapons,pangas,machetes,bows and arrows...we never resolve our issues amicably and like gentlemen we turn to hacking each other,those celebrating wouldnt do so if a family member gets killed in such a situation...ICC isnt a solution come up with a better one. if only we had the icc in 1945; we may have had the nuremberg trials. oh wait! africa pulling out wouldn't stop international criminal trials against africans. it would mean they won't have to say execute warrants for the court (the united states of america would love this) but if such people were to go to any country that was a member or had its own reasons to execute such a warrant ... and what would that do to our president and deputy if kenya were to pull out ...
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murchr wrote:Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? If you dont see the political twist to this court then I must say you are very naive and blinded by the west koolaid. As for your grammar jamaa bana Kenyans don't write like that. Did the prosecutor of this court carry out investigations or he was carried away by the gossip of the day? What political twist? some people were left out? Well ICC was clear from the start that they only wanted those with the highest responsibility, the guy you wanted to be on the list is possibly number 7, too bad the cut off was top 6. What makes you think prosecutor don't have any evidences? Isn't it what your delusional mind is telling you? Koolaid? It is not koolaid, it is called independent mind. Kenyans don't write like I do? Well, I guess then good grammar cannot cover up for short fall in thinking process, atleast in your case.
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What happened to full co-operation? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rollout wrote:murchr wrote:Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? If you dont see the political twist to this court then I must say you are very naive and blinded by the west koolaid. As for your grammar jamaa bana Kenyans don't write like that. Did the prosecutor of this court carry out investigations or he was carried away by the gossip of the day? What political twist? some people were left out? Well ICC was clear from the start that they only wanted those with the highest responsibility, the guy you wanted to be on the list is possibly number 7, too bad the cut off was top 6. What makes you think prosecutor don't have any evidences? Isn't it what your delusional mind is telling you? Koolaid? It is not koolaid, it is called independent mind. Kenyans don't write like I do? Well, I guess then good grammar cannot cover up for short fall in thinking process, atleast in your case. What measures highest responsibility? We all know the people with the highest responsibility in this matter were the protagonists (Raia and Mwai) If indeed those b4 the court now committed the crimes, who were they working for? So far the court has done away with 3 out of the 6 who were accused, one judge found the whole process a waste of time, doesn't that tell you something is really wrong with what was presented b4 this court? I respect your independent thinking and i expect you to respect my opinion of you being very naive. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:Rollout wrote:murchr wrote:Rollout wrote:mawinder wrote:Muheani wrote:As long As The West Doesnt Allow Their People To Be Tried by The Icc..
As long As the Icc Is A Political Arm Of The West In Africa
I Support the Move Fully DITTO!!! This is silly coming from an ordinary Kenyan, if you don't like ICC then don't kill each other or atleast if you do please find someone guilty. ICC is a political arm? Give me a break, the West did not sent Mungiki to Naivashia and Nakuru, the West did not sent Kales to raid Eldoret, the west did not issue shoot to kill in Kisumu. If Kenya was raiding Uganda, I would be more supportive but Kenyans killing other Kenyans and we are comparing that to War in Iraq are we delusional as a country? If you dont see the political twist to this court then I must say you are very naive and blinded by the west koolaid. As for your grammar jamaa bana Kenyans don't write like that. Did the prosecutor of this court carry out investigations or he was carried away by the gossip of the day? What political twist? some people were left out? Well ICC was clear from the start that they only wanted those with the highest responsibility, the guy you wanted to be on the list is possibly number 7, too bad the cut off was top 6. What makes you think prosecutor don't have any evidences? Isn't it what your delusional mind is telling you? Koolaid? It is not koolaid, it is called independent mind. Kenyans don't write like I do? Well, I guess then good grammar cannot cover up for short fall in thinking process, atleast in your case. What measures highest responsibility? We all know the people with the highest responsibility in this matter were the protagonists (Raia and Mwai) If indeed those b4 the court now committed the crimes, who were they working for? So far the court has done away with 3 out of the 6 who were accused, one judge found the whole process a waste of time, doesn't that tell you something is really wrong with what was presented b4 this court? I respect your independent thinking and i expect you to respect my opinion of you being very naive. First, I think you are confusing the moral responsibility and legal responsibility, Mwai and RAO could be morally responsible from the fact that the 4 were working for them, but unless they directed the four to commit the crimes they are alleged to have committed, MWai and RAO cannot be legally responsible for those crimes committed by the 4. Assuming that Mwai and RAO is guilty just because the accussed worked for them is just a stretch if not outright lack of knowhow, Criminal responsibility is different from civil responsibility. ICC is a criminal court not a civil court. Secondly, It is a little laughable when we have to use an opinion by one judge to make a conclusion it actually shows the deficits we have when it come to independent thinking, infact there is a disconnect between using the word, "one judge,"..... and "something is really wrong," How can something be really wrong when one judge out of more than 2 disagree??????Really? Lastly, I don't have a problem if you call me what you think I am (naive) and you shouldn't have a problem if I call you what I think you are and that is F***ing idiot, Ooops excuse my language.
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And what will be agenda 2
Lets beg money for AMISOM?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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And what will be agenda 2
Lets beg money for AMISOM?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds. Have no fear for atomic energy, 'Cause none of them can stop the time. How long shall they kill our prophets, While we stand aside and look? Ooh! Some say it's just a part of it: We've got to fullfil the book. possunt quia posse videntur
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