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KenolKobil FY 2012 substrata loss of 9b!
Jamani
#201 Posted : Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:13:46 PM
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Further to that
Hedging is the practice of taking a position in one market to offset and balance against the risk adopted by assuming a position in a contrary or opposing market or investment. The word hedge is from Old English hecg, originally any fence, living or artificial. The use of the word as a verb in the sense of "dodge, evade" is first recorded in the 1590s; that of insure oneself against loss, as in a bet, is from 1670s. [2]
tom_boy
#202 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 12:08:35 PM
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Jamani wrote:
At Tom_boy.....wiki defines it as follows

A hedge is an investment position intended to offset potential losses/gains that may be incurred by a companion investment. In simple language, a hedge is used to reduce any substantial losses/gains suffered by an individual or an organization.

Hedging fuel consumption
Main article: Fuel hedging
Airlines use futures contracts and derivatives to hedge their exposure to the price of jet fuel. They know that they must purchase jet fuel for as long as they want to stay in business, and fuel prices are notoriously volatile. By using crude oil futures contracts to hedge their fuel requirements (and engaging in similar but more complex derivatives transactions), Southwest Airlines was able to save a large amount of money when buying fuel as compared to rival airlines when fuel prices in the U.S. rose dramatically after the 2003 Iraq war and Hurricane Katrina.


Thanks @Jamani for trying to explain this to me. However, I am still lost. I am not able to wrap my mind around big words like "futures" and "derivatives". Please explain using a simple mama mboga example. As in, start by, " Mama Mboga knows she needs to buy sukumawiki every day. The price of sukumawiki in Marikiti keeps changing. She therefore enters into a hedge contract with Mwaniki................... (please explain how it would work in such a situation)
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
hisah
#203 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:56:02 PM
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Getting interesting after that sizable test of supply @9 this week. Now need to break back above 12.50 to get things moving.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mlennyma
#204 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:06:00 PM
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There is very idle money for speculation,after making a loss enough to start a new bank,people are fighting to grab the share.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Aguytrying
#205 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:18:32 PM
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hisah wrote:
Getting interesting after that sizable test of supply @9 this week. Now need to break back above 12.50 to get things moving.


You have to admit, this is a tricky share to call, so, much happening around it.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mlennyma
#206 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:25:43 PM
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Even if nock was to buy this thing,raising 25b is not a joke,with a broke treasury and high gvt debt.it can take years to go through.
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