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kindly keep your fancy gadgets out of the church.
Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2010 Posts: 503 Location: Kenya
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It is also the age of 'swipe a tithe'. And the preachers are the most notorious with the use of those gadgets. So irritating...One of them with a middle class lady started 'singing' when the preacher was praying and she could not figure out how to stop it...She had to rush out with it...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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I agree but must add that this 'fancy gadgets' should include tight skirts,above the knee skirts, low chest blouses exposing nyonyos and fancy exposed ladies underwears displayed infront of you in church.they are more distracting than the ipads ideos iPhone etc. punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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This thread has too much bile... na ni ya kanisa? I don't know about others but I find it more convenient to carry and read my Bible from the phone. Maybe one should seek to do that which took you to church... not look around at what others have (hoping ofcourse that its not flaunted too much infront of you)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Motomoto wrote:It is also the age of 'swipe a tithe'. And the preachers are the most notorious with the use of those gadgets. So irritating...One of them with a middle class lady started 'singing' when the preacher was praying and she could not figure out how to stop it...She had to rush out with it... Problem lies with the church leadership. If the pastor's wife displays cleavage and thighs what does she expect the youth to do? surely there must be a difference between church and world but that doesn't mean dressing up like my grandma.Just keep it decent to avoid distractions. God loves order and technology.The church must catch up with the times. But anything hindering people from meeting and being ministered to by God can easily evolve into an idol not matter how useful and convinient. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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matata wrote:I hate the habit too. The churh elders or pastors should condem the act and stop anyone from doing that.
I think it should be allowed during weddings and funerals only. CHurches should designate areas for people who want to use the gadgets to sit. Just like they do for parents with young babies. Then the gadget owners can mingle freely and dont have to distract the rest of the congregation. Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Euge wrote:matata wrote:I hate the habit too. The churh elders or pastors should condem the act and stop anyone from doing that.
I think it should be allowed during weddings and funerals only. CHurches should designate areas for people who want to use the gadgets to sit. Just like they do for parents with young babies. Then the gadget owners can mingle freely and dont have to distract the rest of the congregation. then the gadget owners will feel like superhuman and church will disintegrate. punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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jaggernaut wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Did i mention am posting this from my i-pad, which i leave in the car together with my galaxy note.
So why mention this if not to brag? And why do you need the 2 gadgets that are basically 'the same', that is purpose and function-wise? This reminds me of a guy who was sitting next to me at the pub yesterday and he had placed an iphone and galaxy S4 on the bar counter, to brag of course since he never received or made any calls, just displaying his phones. Thanks @ jaggernaut, for noting my last statement above. It was deliberately included. If it sounds foolish reading it online from an unknown wazuan, imagine how it feels being done by the guy seated to you in church. But for real there are guys who carry both these gadgets.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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FRM2011 wrote:jaggernaut wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Did i mention am posting this from my i-pad, which i leave in the car together with my galaxy note.
So why mention this if not to brag? And why do you need the 2 gadgets that are basically 'the same', that is purpose and function-wise? This reminds me of a guy who was sitting next to me at the pub yesterday and he had placed an iphone and galaxy S4 on the bar counter, to brag of course since he never received or made any calls, just displaying his phones. Thanks @ jaggernaut, for noting my last statement above. It was deliberately included. If it sounds foolish reading it online from an unknown wazuan, imagine how it feels being done by the guy seated to you in church. But for real there are guys who carry both these gadgets. There are some with an iphone5 on safcom,S4 on airtel an ipad4G and a laptop.Some will even dare carry them to the next mbuzi!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:Only a show off can spot a show off. Beware those that pretend to be humble, usually, they are the most conceited. this is the most important post in this thread...looking at the speck in your brothers eye forgetting the log in yours... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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washiku wrote:These days they are tweeting the sermons as they happen...and it gets awkward when two of them realizes they are in the same church and starts tweeting each other(still in church) how the pastor has touched them, how that lady in red in the praise n worship team was off-key, how the assistant pastor is boring today, etc etc...randomly, another guy at whom tweets "stop tweeting from church" and a whole discussion begins with pro n cons of tweeting from church... Why would someone tweet while you they in a church and the service is going on? Why? Church is 1-2hrs per week. People cannot leave their phones at home and dedicate 1.2% (2hrs out of a 168hr week) of their time each week to God? Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2012 Posts: 320
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jaggernaut wrote:I don't think there is anything wrong with having your bible, hymns and even prayers, in digital form which you can carry on your tablet/smartphone and access anywhere including while in the church. Society and technology is changing and we should evolve too. i agree. I have an audio dramatized kjv bible myself i listen to when commuting or in the office or at home and hymns and steps to christ etc. Actually i find reading AND listening simultaneously is more vivid. in my honest opinion, nothing beats flipping the kjv, hymns and sop pages the good old fashioned way. Am more out of tune with church goers than with my bible. Light Bearer
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2011 Posts: 410
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If only God could show them his powers! All christians should respect God's house. Siku hizi naona watu waki receive ata simu. Unapata mtu ameinama kwa bench shouting, yet he thinks he is whispering!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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jguru wrote:washiku wrote:These days they are tweeting the sermons as they happen...and it gets awkward when two of them realizes they are in the same church and starts tweeting each other(still in church) how the pastor has touched them, how that lady in red in the praise n worship team was off-key, how the assistant pastor is boring today, etc etc...randomly, another guy at whom tweets "stop tweeting from church" and a whole discussion begins with pro n cons of tweeting from church... Why would someone tweet while you they in a church and the service is going on? Why? Church is 1-2hrs per week. People cannot leave their phones at home and dedicate 1.2% (2hrs out of a 168hr week) of their time each week to God? I wonder what technology is to some people. Doesn't God love technology? I heard a sermon in Mavuno (on youtube), where the preacher told people to get their phones/ipads etc, went ahead to give the reading of the day. People were asked to tweet, update etc and share it. I find this thread to be a weapon of the enemy. Bad mouth people, create hatred, encourage judging and break up the mood of a church goer. I ask again, why not focus on what took you to church? If someone goes to church with an ipad, iphone, galaxy whatever... isn't that his right? Are you in his heart to know his motives? FOCUS on you and your God and let his people be!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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I can see some of them on this thread.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:jguru wrote:washiku wrote:These days they are tweeting the sermons as they happen...and it gets awkward when two of them realizes they are in the same church and starts tweeting each other(still in church) how the pastor has touched them, how that lady in red in the praise n worship team was off-key, how the assistant pastor is boring today, etc etc...randomly, another guy at whom tweets "stop tweeting from church" and a whole discussion begins with pro n cons of tweeting from church... Why would someone tweet while you they in a church and the service is going on? Why? Church is 1-2hrs per week. People cannot leave their phones at home and dedicate 1.2% (2hrs out of a 168hr week) of their time each week to God? I wonder what technology is to some people. Doesn't God love technology? I heard a sermon in Mavuno (on youtube), where the preacher told people to get their phones/ipads etc, went ahead to give the reading of the day. People were asked to tweet, update etc and share it. I find this thread to be a weapon of the enemy. Bad mouth people, create hatred, encourage judging and break up the mood of a church goer. I ask again, why not focus on what took you to church? If someone goes to church with an ipad, iphone, galaxy whatever... isn't that his right? Are you in his heart to know his motives? FOCUS on you and your God and let his people be! well in... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Annti_Christy wrote:jaggernaut wrote:I don't think there is anything wrong with having your bible, hymns and even prayers, in digital form which you can carry on your tablet/smartphone and access anywhere including while in the church. Society and technology is changing and we should evolve too. i agree. I have an audio dramatized kjv bible myself i listen to when commuting or in the office or at home and hymns and steps to christ etc. Actually i find reading AND listening simultaneously is more vivid. in my honest opinion, nothing beats flipping the kjv, hymns and sop pages the good old fashioned way. Am more out of tune with church goers than with my bible. I have the 'Catholic One' app on my phone and it enables me to go through the day's readings even before I go to church.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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newfarer wrote:I agree but must add that this 'fancy gadgets' should include tight skirts,above the knee skirts, low chest blouses exposing nyonyos and fancy exposed ladies underwears displayed infront of you in church.they are more distracting than the ipads ideos iPhone etc. I invite all of you to, at least even once in your time, visit a mosque, and see for themselves true brotherhood, true humbleness, completely no class, true commitment, true compliance to God's law, see what real worship means, just like the time of all messengers of God... Yes, of course. Muslims believe in all prophets of God. From: - Adam - Enoch - Noah - Lot - Abraham - Ishmael - Issac - Jacob - Joseph - Aron - Moses - David - Solomon - Job - Ezekiel - Jonah - Elias - Elisha - Zakarias - John - Jesus - Muhammad peace be upon them all They all called people to believe that there's only one God, creator of the universe.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 851 Location: nairobi
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my pastor once delivered a sermon from a tablet....I have 4 bible versions on my tablet which I can cross refferance through with a flick of the button...can make an audio recording at the same time.....ah yes...my church has no DVD cameras...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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blown out of proportion. thought this was about the distractions caused by such gadgets and not their use. If you all fill the aisle and block others view sio poa. promote the church by buying their recordings if you are truly committed, not doing it yourself kisapere. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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