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Kenya Power - what's the latest?
youcan'tstopusnow
#31 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:06:50 PM
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He blamed the rain for the outages.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Ericsson
#32 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:41:01 PM
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With all this rain and water going to waste;there is need to build a high grand falls dam with a capacity to generate about 1 Gigawatt of electricity.
KENGEN is reporting that its hydro dams are full and the excess water could have been channelled to the high grand falls dam.Energy supply could be a thing of the past and now we could be thinking of distribution.
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2012
#33 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 4:57:06 PM
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Ati Ruto ametoa order KPLC wasiongezee raiya ma-tariffs?

BBI will solve it
:)
holycow
#34 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:18:59 PM
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2012 wrote:
Ati Ruto ametoa order KPLC wasiongezee raiya ma-tariffs?


It's never safe investing in Parastatals.
Pesa Nane
#35 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:59:24 PM
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2012 wrote:
Ati Ruto ametoa order KPLC wasiongezee raiya ma-tariffs?

Kool! Kenya is bigger than KPLC shareholders (How I already regret having these 'communist' sentiments).
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
maka
#36 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:39:17 PM
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2012 wrote:
Ati Ruto ametoa order KPLC wasiongezee raiya ma-tariffs?

yes he has...
possunt quia posse videntur
murchr
#37 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 4:36:31 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
With all this rain and water going to waste;there is need to build a high grand falls dam with a capacity to generate about 1 Gigawatt of electricity.
KENGEN is reporting that its hydro dams are full and the excess water could have been channelled to the high grand falls dam.Energy supply could be a thing of the past and now we could be thinking of distribution.


Yes, but that angle of things was evaluated and a conclusion was made that it would be expensive yet it doesn't always rain like this, so better channel the money to Geothermal
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Ericsson
#38 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 6:11:31 AM
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@murchr;The money being spent to construct the Olkaria I and IV to generate 280 MW is enough to construct the Grand Falls Dam with a capacity to generate about 1200MW.
Since 2010 we have been having heavy rains and the water has been going to waste.
The revenue generated from this power stations could then have been used to fund the geothermal power.The dam could also have a reservoir that can last a year plus.
Hydro power is the cheapest source of power and now we could be enjoying cheaper electicity tariffs and there would have been no need of raising the tariffs.
Ethiopia suffered the worst drought in the world in 1984 but has that stopped them from constructing hydro power dams.
The issue of geothermal energy was an avenue of some people to enrich themselves because of the huge capital cost involved otherwise why was Ahmed Abednassir on Eddy Njoroge's case concerning these projects that some people were enriching themselves.
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mlennyma
#39 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 7:03:46 AM
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Kplc is very mean in dividends,the share has stagnated for a very longtime,there is alot of corruption/bribery with legal and illegal connections.this is a poorly run company without independence.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#40 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 7:10:50 AM
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A lesson for me.

Populism not sense/logic will always won out. Sigh, I shall bail out ASAP. Where's @thedeal who prefers Umeme to KPLC... Careful what happened to us in KPLC doesn't happen to you in Umeme.

Invest in firms that don't catch the populist eye. Or pay a super discount. Of course, banks will be exempt when you consider who owns CBA.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#41 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 7:12:05 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
A lesson for me. Populism not sense will always won out. Sigh, I shall bail out ASAP. Where's @thedeal who prefers Umeme to KPLC... Careful what happened to us in KPLC doesn't happen to you in Umeme.


smile
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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For Sport
#42 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 8:24:14 AM
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Glad I recently bailed out. the stingy dividends were not very encouraging. And the DPs statements show who is boss here (definitely not the shareholders).
mkonomtupu
#43 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 9:03:58 AM
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i read what the Ruto had to say and I was horrified for a moment. Has the guy read the contracts that Kenya power has entered into with the independent power producers? Has he seen the contracts with Turkana wind power project? That's what you call a road side declaration even Moi would not go that low. Does he realise just a few years back Kenya power was on the brink of insolvency yet he says "we cannot subsidise Kenya Power operations forever". The GoK had to do a balance sheet clean up to get this damn thing on the road to recovery. I think they should delist this company and the govt should keep it's inefficient parastatals to itself instead of duping the investing public
dunkang
#44 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 9:29:56 AM
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On the other hand, what would have the 25p.c rate hike meant to the entire economy?
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

2012
#45 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 9:34:38 AM
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I think this is a good challenge for KPLC. I'm a shareholder and I also think KPLC needs to be more efficient and expand. Only 6% of Kenya's population has electricity after 50 years of independence with KPLC in existence.
KPLC needs a manager and not an engineer at the helm and you'll see that's why Kengen is doing well and KPLC is not.

BBI will solve it
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