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tycho
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:52:37 AM
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'Slave' - One whose body and soul belongs to an other.

Am I a slave? No. I am.

Are you a slave? Who do you belong to, and how did you get there?

Please share, even if you belong to 'no one'.
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AlphDoti
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:04:11 PM
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Thank you @tycho for clarifying this term.

You see the minority within the other community feels hurt by this term. You know many people, even here I guess, make the mistake of using this word in reference to Africans of African/Americans.

WE ARE ALL SLAVES OF THE CREATOR


Because God (glorified and exalted be He) refers to us all as His slaves beautifully in the Quran
And it is a term of honor. An honorable way of life and the purpose for which He created us

So the term refers:
to those who strive to respect, adore, reverence, a master: Like in the courts, for those who are still lost in the term.

Here:
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youcan'tstopusnow
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:14:46 PM
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tycho wrote:
'Slave' - One whose body and soul belongs to an other.

Am I a slave? No. I am.

Are you a slave? Who do you belong to, and how did you get there?

Please share, even if you belong to 'no one'.


Wha about the other side of the realm and into the mind of the enslaver. What goes through it?

http://www.cnn.com/inter...t.stronghold/index.html
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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tycho
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:57:43 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Thank you @tycho for clarifying this term.

You see the minority within the other community feels hurt by this term. You know many people, even here I guess, make the mistake of using this word in reference to Africans of African/Americans.

WE ARE ALL SLAVES OF THE CREATOR


Because God (glorified and exalted be He) refers to us all as His slaves beautifully in the Quran
And it is a term of honor. An honorable way of life and the purpose for which He created us

So the term refers:
to those who strive to respect, adore, reverence, a master: Like in the courts, for those who are still lost in the term.

Here:


Thank you @Alph.

Consider that Man is not only an image of God, but that he is endowed with consciousness and power to name and choose.

This precludes slavery.

@youcant, has asked us an important question. If God is our Master He is compelled in a manner that sustains the Master- Slave relationship.

This negates God. And Humanity.
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masukuma
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 2:53:15 PM
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django unchained!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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tycho
#6 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 3:07:05 PM
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masukuma wrote:
django unchained!


Only to chain himself.
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digitek1
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 3:15:59 PM
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tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
django unchained!


Only to chain himself.

Philosophy will always lead to paradoxes but the truth will set you free
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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tycho
#8 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 4:12:48 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
django unchained!


Only to chain himself.

Philosophy will always lead to paradoxes but the truth will set you free


Not true. Philosophy can lead to truth. And yes, truth will set you free.

There's no paradox here. Only ignorance.
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tycho
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 5:10:03 PM
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tycho wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
django unchained!


Only to chain himself.

Philosophy will always lead to paradoxes but the truth will set you free


Not true. Philosophy can lead to truth. And yes, truth will set you free.

There's no paradox here. Only ignorance.


My ignorance perhaps. I realize there's no freedom, without the sword.

But Justice. Where and how do we get it?

The bounty hunter. Ultimate Justice?

Django Unchained indeed.
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digitek1
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:09:04 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Thank you @tycho for clarifying this term.

You see the minority within the other community feels hurt by this term. You know many people, even here I guess, make the mistake of using this word in reference to Africans of African/Americans.

WE ARE ALL SLAVES OF THE CREATOR


Because God (glorified and exalted be He) refers to us all as His slaves beautifully in the Quran
And it is a term of honor. An honorable way of life and the purpose for which He created us

So the term refers:
to those who strive to respect, adore, reverence, a master: Like in the courts, for those who are still lost in the term.

Here:

can one be the devils slave
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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maka
#11 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 12:39:44 AM
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Huh....
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Tokyo
#12 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 3:00:21 AM
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Slave- a person who works without proper remuneration or appreciation . ie your house girl


work to prosper
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masukuma
#13 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 8:28:22 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Slave- a person who works without proper remuneration or appreciation . ie your house girl



Slaves are livestock... we think we are doing them favours. it has an aspect of 'freewill' i.e. there being none.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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#14 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2013 10:50:46 AM
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The clearest, most understandable and tangible things are not all there is. There is something else: unclear, unknown, contradictory and non-existent.

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