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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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Coolio wrote:My Mpesa attendant huwa namlipa 5k and whenever I feel like eating managu instead of regular sukuma hananga shida. @Mukiri: Here's another candidate for your everlasting and wonderful advice. + Prayers. @Coolio, here comes @Mukiri. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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jguru wrote:Coolio wrote:My Mpesa attendant huwa namlipa 5k and whenever I feel like eating managu instead of regular sukuma hananga shida. @Mukiri: Here's another candidate for your everlasting and wonderful advice. + Prayers. @Coolio, here comes @Mukiri. @jguru, Omera, Im your new fixation? Wewe muombee. Maybe 'Mpesa attendant' is the new 'wife' and thats their role play.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Coolio wrote:My Mpesa attendant huwa namlipa 5k and whenever I feel like eating managu instead of regular sukuma hananga shida. And whenever she feels like eating sukuma instead of managu, customers are there. Unaletewa all sorts of veges at your doorstep. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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Mukiri wrote:jguru wrote:Coolio wrote:My Mpesa attendant huwa namlipa 5k and whenever I feel like eating managu instead of regular sukuma hananga shida. @Mukiri: Here's another candidate for your everlasting and wonderful advice. + Prayers. @Coolio, here comes @Mukiri. @jguru, Omera, Im your new fixation? Wewe muombee. Maybe 'Mpesa attendant' is the new 'wife' and thats their role play. she isn't my wife, i have a very beautiful wife and very much blessed the size of essyk. Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? solution? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2011 Posts: 410
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I think the current rate is too much. Not forgetting they use everything in ur house. U will find some do not even touch there salo cz wanajipaka mafuta ya watoto au mama. So the government should review the rates for housegals. N wengine they just harass our kids. What worries is I accompanied my wife when she was interviewing one and I wanted to be there cz of matamchi ya lugha which had started affecting my children, en one of the gals asked if we use diapers or nappies, each has its price, en she even wanted to know if we use washing machine au mikono kufua? Now tell me, isn't that pure crap. I do not ask my boss if I will use a type writer or a laptop in my work??? Atwoli awache kudekeza hawa watu.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2007 Posts: 675
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lol @matata. Ati matamchi ya lugha affecting kids eh. Sasa our househelp is one mwizi! She's a daybag to sukari, mchele etc.... anavuka nazo. Tunamvumilia tu for now Form is temporary, class is permanent
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/7/2013 Posts: 447 Location: Nairobi
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No problem...as long as she can shelter herself and I assume that 7k will be enaf to pay for her house, shopping, food and all. When I give mine 5k I assume that the balance ni ya shopping and other things i do for her while in my house You cant win, unless you first begin....
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/7/2013 Posts: 447 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? We would like to pay more but sometimes its not affordable. I believe in treating a house girl well. she takes care of my most treasured asset...My daughter, so treating her like part of the family is the key not like a slave. You cant win, unless you first begin....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Meduza wrote:Tokyo wrote:House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? We would like to pay more but sometimes its not affordable. I believe in treating a house girl well. she takes care of my most treasured asset...My daughter, so treating her like part of the family is the key not like a slave. Exactly; but bear in mind you might be ruining innocent underage girls life. The best solution is baby care units. Your kids handled professionally . It's cheap, reliable and secure. Dropouts will be reduced as well work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Hmmmm,there has been a rise in daycares.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/26/2007 Posts: 118
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Tokyo wrote:Meduza wrote:Tokyo wrote:House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? We would like to pay more but sometimes its not affordable. I believe in treating a house girl well. she takes care of my most treasured asset...My daughter, so treating her like part of the family is the key not like a slave. Exactly; but bear in mind you might be ruining innocent underage girls life. The best solution is baby care units. Your kids handled professionally . It's cheap, reliable and secure. Dropouts will be reduced as well Do these babycare units pick up 2month old babies by 6am when most people leave for work? and what about exposure to the cold morning weather?plus what if the baby is still sleeping, i have to wake her up early and prepare her for "babycare"? Or what are you suggesting? Give Away FREE Reports and Affiliate Tools. Earn commissions from sales of Our Do-It-Yourself List Building Resources. http://www.leadgeneratingtools.com
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/26/2007 Posts: 118
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Tokyo wrote:House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? Just for the record,kindergarten teachers especially in government schools do not earn more than 6 - 10K....and remember they have to arrange their own accommodation,food etc. Only very good private schools pay them well..Infact I know one who used to get 3K via mpesa @end month and the other 3K in installments during the next month Give Away FREE Reports and Affiliate Tools. Earn commissions from sales of Our Do-It-Yourself List Building Resources. http://www.leadgeneratingtools.com
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/23/2010 Posts: 1,229
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Tokyo wrote:House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? Provided their skill and training level is commensurate to that of a kindergarten teacher. Most of them are trained on the job. Maybe we qualify for some sort of training levy. Some of them make costly mistakes..and we're not just talking property here. Plus, this is not a western country. TIA. Let the domestic technician decide whether S/he wants to stay where they are at in life, or to begin the journey climbing out of poverty by working.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2013 Posts: 325
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XSK wrote:2012 wrote:I don't think this is a good move and the house helps are the ones to suffer because you'll only need then on a full time basis when you have a new born after that you'll only need a mama for washing the house and clothes once a week for 400/-. Everyone will have a part-time housi who has to go get her own food and accommodation. Largely true. The extra cash you will pay them will require them to get a house somewhere. It may not be practical for most part. It will boil down to your agreement with the individual pay them the stipulated minimum and ask them to find own accomodation or stay with the employer but at a lesser pay. In a nutshell employers will need to consider the cost of housing and feeding them as part of the pay!!! Ditto! And if they insist they will not report this you can have them sign an agreement that they agree to the terms of payment witnessed by a lawyer...this is to protect you in the long run.. The tumboches turn to angry cats when they have met a kahousy and need to depart from your home...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Our maid has a maid looking after her kid while she is at work. Can our maid afford sh7,500 minimum wage for her maid? The assumption that employers can afford the minimum wages is totally wrong. Supply and demand dynamics are also at play. There is a large supply of maids---if you announce that you are looking for one to be paid sh3,500, you will get very may interested! Mind you this is less than half the minimum wage. So, we have a majority of employers who can't afford the 7k and many wokers willing to take half that amount. In short, both just scoff at Atwoli and the Minister for Labour and tell them to continue dreaming! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:Our maid has a maid looking after her kid while she is at work. Can our maid afford sh7,500 minimum wage for her maid? The assumption that employers can afford the minimum wages is totally wrong.
Supply and demand dynamics are also at play. There is a large supply of maids---if you announce that you are looking for one to be paid sh3,500, you will get very may interested! Mind you this is less than half the minimum wage.
So, we have a majority of employers who can't afford the 7k and many wokers willing to take half that amount. In short, both just scoff at Atwoli and the Minister for Labour and tell them to continue dreaming!
very good point there! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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new investor wrote:Tokyo wrote:House girls salary should be equivalent to kindergarten teacher. It's very dehumanizing enslaving young girls just because you are feeding and accomonditing them. Imagine it was your sister or worse enough your own daughter wasting prime time of their lives instead of advancing or acquiring modern skills . The profession should have proper terms like any other . How many in the so called western countries have a Nanny anyway ? Just for the record,kindergarten teachers especially in government schools do not earn more than 6 - 10K....and remember they have to arrange their own accommodation,food etc. Only very good private schools pay them well..Infact I know one who used to get 3K via mpesa @end month and the other 3K in installments during the next month I don't think Tokyo lives in Kenya
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