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MaichBlack
#301 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:15:06 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Meanwhile ION kesho iko fundraising hapo All Saints Cathedral complete with paybill number.

Sorry this might sound silly/bad but I ask;- Why?

thot guy has good covers and if not family ok to handle.I know our socialization is such that we need to buy mushumari but I did not expect a public harambee.

People in the know claim he was up to his neck in debts. Apparently he [among others] borrowed heavily to finance the CORD campaigns. The reasoning was that "after" they won, they would easily recover the money through [inflated] government contracts. Add to that the fact that he never used to get a dime of his salary. He had evaded tax to the tune of Kshs. 300 million and when this was unearthed he struck a deal with KRA which entailed KRA collecting 100% of his salary. He was to continue paying this tax debt on a reduced [and taxed] salary! This [major debts] is actually the reason some people believed he might actually have committed suicide! The story is that most of his property is waiting to go under the hammer. It would be a sad story. Not nice to see a fellow human being [and/or his family] in distress!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rollins
#302 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:19:58 PM
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McReggae wrote:
RIP witness number 6!.........chilling, salamia namba 1!!!!!!.....my respects!!!!



Do some people rush to post just to appear in the know?
Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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Rollins
#303 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:22:16 PM
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Impunity wrote:
bird_man wrote:
Hehe!I think we now know which rumor is true & which pills this mzee was taking!


An insider info is that the pills were manufactured by pfizer and they were blue in color.
I can bet that family will not make public the autopsy findings.
NUFF SAID.


Someone need to warn the former forestry geezer lest we find him makuenied somewhere in naivasha. Those pills...
Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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MaichBlack
#304 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:35:52 PM
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Rollins wrote:
McReggae wrote:
RIP witness number 6!.........chilling, salamia namba 1!!!!!!.....my respects!!!!



Do some people rush to post just to appear in the know?

Yes. That and the fact they have agendas and predetermined conclusions and their major task is to see how the facts on the ground can be made to lead to those conclusions.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Impunity
#305 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:54:17 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
vinii wrote:
...for once it seems the sleuths in Wazua may have cracked this case even before Kimaiyo's mboys started their investigations...Pepsi na Delmonte ..... Choma na Githeri ....clearly there was a guest ...

For once???

This has been the norm rather than the exception!

As a matter of fact, it should be made COMPULSOURY for police officers and other security agents to visit wazua as part of their investigations!! The percentage of successfully solved cases would rise dramatically!!!


smile
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Impunity
#306 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 1:01:14 PM
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Rollins wrote:
Impunity wrote:
bird_man wrote:
Hehe!I think we now know which rumor is true & which pills this mzee was taking!


An insider info is that the pills were manufactured by pfizer and they were blue in color.
I can bet that family will not make public the autopsy findings.
NUFF SAID.

Someone need to warn the former forestry geezer lest we find him makuenied somewhere in naivasha. Those pills...


The worst part is that the forestry man is bigger and may complicate issues...he need to stop or use a banana.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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essyk
#307 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 1:14:17 PM
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Joined: 11/15/2011
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MaichBlack wrote:
vinii wrote:
...for once it seems the sleuths in Wazua may have cracked this case even before Kimaiyo's mboys started their investigations...Pepsi na Delmonte ..... Choma na Githeri ....clearly there was a guest ...

For once???

This has been the norm rather than the exception!

As a matter of fact, it should be made COMPULSOURY for police officers and other security agents to visit wazua as part of their investigations!! The percentage of successfully solved cases would rise dramatically!!!


Wako hapa among the posters.
This is so sad.Some riches bring agony.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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jguru
#308 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 1:18:37 PM
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Joined: 10/25/2007
Posts: 1,574
MaichBlack wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Meanwhile ION kesho iko fundraising hapo All Saints Cathedral complete with paybill number.

Sorry this might sound silly/bad but I ask;- Why?

thot guy has good covers and if not family ok to handle.I know our socialization is such that we need to buy mushumari but I did not expect a public harambee.

People in the know claim he was up to his neck in debts. Apparently he [among others] borrowed heavily to finance the CORD campaigns. The reasoning was that "after" they won, they would easily recover the money through [inflated] government contracts. Add to that the fact that he never used to get a dime of his salary. He had evaded tax to the tune of Kshs. 300 million and when this was unearthed he struck a deal with KRA which entailed KRA collecting 100% of his salary. He was to continue paying this tax debt on a reduced [and taxed] salary! This [major debts] is actually the reason some people believed he might actually have committed suicide! The story is that most of his property is waiting to go under the hammer. It would be a sad story. Not nice to see a fellow human being [and/or his family] in distress!


His properties and assets are heavily tied in trusts and charitable organisations. He's a clever lawyer. Nothing is ever in his name. Those debts have died with him.
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Cupcake
#309 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 1:51:04 PM
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Joined: 8/3/2009
Posts: 249
Impunity wrote:
Rollins wrote:
Impunity wrote:
bird_man wrote:
Hehe!I think we now know which rumor is true & which pills this mzee was taking!


An insider info is that the pills were manufactured by pfizer and they were blue in color.
I can bet that family will not make public the autopsy findings.
NUFF SAID.

Someone need to warn the former forestry geezer lest we find him makuenied somewhere in naivasha. Those pills...


The worst part is that the forestry man is bigger and may complicate issues...he need to stop or use a banana.

Drool expound...sielewi (akule ama afungilie???)
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MaichBlack
#310 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2013 2:19:23 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,912
jguru wrote:
His properties and assets are heavily tied in trusts and charitable organisations. He's a clever lawyer. Nothing is ever in his name. Those debts have died with him.

Good for him/his family if this is the case. But I doubt things are as easy as you make them sound to be. You must borrow AGAINST something. This is not Moi's time when a politician could walk into National Bank with a note a get an unsecured loan!

Banks treat "political loans" as high risk and therefore not only charge a higher interest but also ensure that the security is water tight, highly valuable and easy to dispose. If the properties are in the name of companies and trusts then the loans must be in the names of those companies and trusts. No bank in this day and age - in Kenya - will give you a significant loan without proper security. Your chances are even worse if you are a politician!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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