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No, a house is not an asset...
Gathige
#41 Posted : Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:14:43 PM
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@ Ngong, Bado bro. Still trying and soon will be there. One baby step at at time and soon i will made a moon jump to the "leafy side". Kwetu Jam imezidi, barabara zimenda na maji but we are hanging on there is no situation is permanent.

@ Washiku- Yes it is possible to make a move in a few hrs. A deal can mature any moment na nijipate nimevuka border.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Ngong
#42 Posted : Wednesday, May 01, 2013 9:15:44 PM
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Gathige wrote:
@ Ngong, Bado bro. Still trying and soon will be there. One baby step at at time and soon i will made a moon jump to the "leafy side". Kwetu Jam imezidi, barabara zimenda na maji but we are hanging on there is no situation is permanent.

@ Washiku- Yes it is possible to make a move in a few hrs. A deal can mature any moment na nijipate nimevuka border.


My prayers ndugu,mwanaume ni kujikaza na kuweka focus away from vinyaunyau!
josiah33
#43 Posted : Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:46:19 AM
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washiku wrote:
Ngong wrote:
Gathige wrote:


@ Jaggernaut, I used to think so until one time thugs broke into house and almost got to my bedroom. I purposed the day i will make some real cash, i will move from that locality to the leafy side " just to feel good and be enjoying a sound sleep". Life is short and is best enjoyed when one has means.


Uli manage kumove Bw. Gathige?
How is the feeling? pls!


Just wondering whether he could have made the money he talked about in just a few hourssmile

In just a few hours???
MaichBlack
#44 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 12:02:31 AM
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MatataMingi wrote:
A House is an Asset - Period.

An asset something of value, which a house is. The same as the shares,Bonds etc. that you own.

- If I have a house that I rent, that gives me income, HOW can that be a liability.

- If I have house that I stay in, and therefore not pay rent, HOW can that be a liability.

Ask ANY account, when they prepare your accounts - where do they list houses, under assets or liabilities.

In the US you pay taxes [Property Tax] on a house you live in if you own it! That's not the case in Kenya.

People should not just copy-paste stuff. The realities in Kenya are very different from the realities in other parts of the world and as a result people should put what they read in context!!!

Back to Property Taxes. The highest property taxes in the US are in New York. In Monroe County, New York for example, you pay approximately 3% of your property [House, land + other additions] value in taxes annually. New York state law requires all properties in each municipality to be assessed by assessors appointed by the local governments. Your property should be assessed EVERY YEAR!!! Because property tax rates are set by local governments, they vary by location.

Example:

If you own a house valued at an equivalent of Kshs. 20m you annual property tax bill would be: -

3 / 100 * 20,000,000 = Kshs. 600,000/=

That is Kshs. 50,000/= every month in property taxes every month for living in your own house!!!

Then there is insurance, interest [mortgage] and maintenance.

Add to this the fact that property values in the US appreciate at a lower rate than the inflation rate and you will see why a house in the US is a liability!!!

Believe it or not, in some cases, the cost of taxes, insurance, interest and maintanance is higher the the cost of renting a similar house!!! Strange but VERY TRUE!

In Kenya on the other hand, a house is an ASSET!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
story teller
#45 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 12:10:08 AM
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washiku wrote:
Says...




A house is probably the most important asset you will ever own..
Probably the two most important investments that Americans own are their 401(retirement) plans and their homes..

This is also gaining traction in Kenya as people begin to appreciate the value of capital gains over time..
It's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.
Chaka
#46 Posted : Friday, May 03, 2013 9:56:00 AM
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@MaichBlack,
In the US case:
1.What would happen if one defaults in paying the tax?
2.Does the tax issue still apply if one buys a house and rents it rather that stay in it?
3.How do retirees pay these taxes?
In Kenya we do have "land rent" for leasehold land and "land rates" to contend with...
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