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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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I saw nyama choma and I thought its Wazua lingo for STI
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maka wrote:Behemoth wrote:jguru wrote:But, after the postmortem is done, will it be admissible in a Kenyan court of law? For a portmortem done by a foreign doctor in Kenya, how will they prove the circumstances that led to the autopsy being done by a doctor not registered by the MPDB? A doctor of the experience and integrity to perform and report the autopsy could not be found in Kenya? I think the same rules as for lawyers apply. We call foreign experts to adduce evidence all the time. And it is illogical to assume that for a doctor he must have passed by MDPB. The applicable rules of evidence are to be found in the Evidence ACT. The General restriction on admissibility of Evidence is at Section 5 of that Act. The only admissible evidence is the evidence of the existence or non existence of a fact that is relevant. Under Section 48 when the court has to form an opinion on a point of science such as this that opinion is admissible if made by a person specially skilled in such foreign law or science. Nowhere does it say that person has to be registered to practise or even approved to practise in Kenya. I didn't know. Now I know. Law sielewi sana that's why I asked. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Much ado... Dida would probably have told you the same thing. You don't mix Githeri and Nyama Choma! And certainly not without space for air and water. But seriously... we need an answer for this. If high profile deaths can be wrapped up in such haste sembuse me Wanjiku? However, if we can't show confidence in our own pathologist and have to fly in a white-skin... how will my family settle my demise? And I'm yet to see anyone fly... even to mambasani... even on Njanguas airline... even in the boot amongst his 'goods'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Mukiri wrote:Much ado... Dida would probably have told you the same thing. You don't mix Githeri and Nyama Choma! And certainly not without space for air and water.
But seriously... we need an answer for this. If high profile deaths can be wrapped up in such haste sembuse me Wanjiku?  The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being Sio synonyms na side dish? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/12/2009 Posts: 925
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Impunity wrote:callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being Sio synonyms na side dish? "Dr Oduor, who led other pathologists in performing a preliminary examination on the body and scene before removing it to the mortuary, said detectives had forwarded to the Government Chemist samples, which include vomit collected from a sink in Mr Kilonzo’s home. They also took away food in the room where the body was found and two soft drinks.Tests are expected to shed light on whether the drinks had been tampered with. On Saturday evening, detectives collected samples from Mr Kilonzo’s bedroom, as well as a pair of trousers and the shirt that he had been wearing earlier in the day.from daily nation .......who eats in the bedroom? who takes 2 soft drinks at the same time? ...so they took the trouser and shirt? to see if he came into contact with someone,right? ...if there was no alcohol,then he should have been able to call for help,or did the nyama choma take a way the phone? ......was the door broken into? or did the houseboy just walk in and find boss is unwell? ....what time did the houseboy go and check on his boss?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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just seen 'kenyans' circulating this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXfuLxaMUBE
a possible reason for 'assassination?' - i think not.... I had been telling you these things on SK as they happened and people chose to believe the propaganda generated by ODOMOZ... this is not news!! people need to understand that jubilee was formed 'inspite of' what happenned. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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callaspade wrote:Impunity wrote:callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being Sio synonyms na side dish? "Dr Oduor, who led other pathologists in performing a preliminary examination on the body and scene before removing it to the mortuary, said detectives had forwarded to the Government Chemist samples, which include vomit collected from a sink in Mr Kilonzo’s home. They also took away food in the room where the body was found and two soft drinks.Tests are expected to shed light on whether the drinks had been tampered with. On Saturday evening, detectives collected samples from Mr Kilonzo’s bedroom, as well as a pair of trousers and the shirt that he had been wearing earlier in the day.from daily nation .......who eats in the bedroom? who takes 2 soft drinks at the same time? ...so they took the trouser and shirt? to see if he came into contact with someone,right? ...if there was no alcohol,then he should have been able to call for help,or did the nyama choma take a way the phone? ......was the door broken into? or did the houseboy just walk in and find boss is unwell? ....what time did the houseboy go and check on his boss? @callaspade - are you a COP?? Very valid questions  The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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ZZE123 wrote:callaspade wrote:Impunity wrote:callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being Sio synonyms na side dish? "Dr Oduor, who led other pathologists in performing a preliminary examination on the body and scene before removing it to the mortuary, said detectives had forwarded to the Government Chemist samples, which include vomit collected from a sink in Mr Kilonzo’s home. They also took away food in the room where the body was found and two soft drinks.Tests are expected to shed light on whether the drinks had been tampered with. On Saturday evening, detectives collected samples from Mr Kilonzo’s bedroom, as well as a pair of trousers and the shirt that he had been wearing earlier in the day.from daily nation .......who eats in the bedroom? who takes 2 soft drinks at the same time? ...so they took the trouser and shirt? to see if he came into contact with someone,right? ...if there was no alcohol,then he should have been able to call for help,or did the nyama choma take a way the phone? ......was the door broken into? or did the houseboy just walk in and find boss is unwell? ....what time did the houseboy go and check on his boss? @callaspade - are you a COP?? Very valid questions While still at it, was the nyama choma eaten or was it found intact or did it disappear just like that? Again which community in Kenya eat dry nyama choma with githeri? At leat kiuks eat Githeri special which is a mix of few pieces of boiled beef and githeri.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/24/2009 Posts: 273
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Wazua spin doctors.. What is this explosive secret that the late was to reveal? Surely can't be ICC related. I doubt any new information at this stage would be considered explosive.
Given the timing, it has got to do with the elections and post elections at that.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,924
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maka wrote:callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being this is a nice one. after eating Githeri, he asked for Nyama Choma! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Impunity wrote:ZZE123 wrote:callaspade wrote:Impunity wrote:callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being Sio synonyms na side dish? "Dr Oduor, who led other pathologists in performing a preliminary examination on the body and scene before removing it to the mortuary, said detectives had forwarded to the Government Chemist samples, which include vomit collected from a sink in Mr Kilonzo’s home. They also took away food in the room where the body was found and two soft drinks.Tests are expected to shed light on whether the drinks had been tampered with. On Saturday evening, detectives collected samples from Mr Kilonzo’s bedroom, as well as a pair of trousers and the shirt that he had been wearing earlier in the day.from daily nation .......who eats in the bedroom? who takes 2 soft drinks at the same time? ...so they took the trouser and shirt? to see if he came into contact with someone,right? ...if there was no alcohol,then he should have been able to call for help,or did the nyama choma take a way the phone? ......was the door broken into? or did the houseboy just walk in and find boss is unwell? ....what time did the houseboy go and check on his boss? @callaspade - are you a COP?? Very valid questions While still at it, was the nyama choma eaten or was it found intact or did it disappear just like that? Again which community in Kenya eat dry nyama choma with githeri? At leat kiuks eat Githeri special which is a mix of few pieces of boiled beef and githeri.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Impunity wrote:callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being Sio synonyms na side dish? Nyama choma is the new MWK?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:TAZ wrote:@ Mc Reggae, check today's nation newpaper. Just seen it, that pic implies he took dinner in the bedroom, the accounts from the workers suggest otherwise as I think the breakfast was served where he had taken dinner. The brother in law was the 1st to be summoned, he got to the ranch and got the Senator in bad shape and LEFT him to rush back to the lodge to get back to the lodge to get some dcotors who had spent the night there.....mmmmhhhh!!!!!! Sasa ni Findeo.... how was the relationship between mutula and his Wife ?atleast whatever is public knowledge cos I know alot happens behind the Bedroom walls. everybody who got in contact with mutula before his death broke should be a suspect until proved otherwise. punda amecheka
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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callaspade wrote:Impunity wrote:callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being Sio synonyms na side dish? "Dr Oduor, who led other pathologists in performing a preliminary examination on the body and scene before removing it to the mortuary, said detectives had forwarded to the Government Chemist samples, which include vomit collected from a sink in Mr Kilonzo’s home. They also took away food in the room where the body was found and two soft drinks.Tests are expected to shed light on whether the drinks had been tampered with. On Saturday evening, detectives collected samples from Mr Kilonzo’s bedroom, as well as a pair of trousers and the shirt that he had been wearing earlier in the day.from daily nation .......who eats in the bedroom? who takes 2 soft drinks at the same time? ...so they took the trouser and shirt? to see if he came into contact with someone,right? ...if there was no alcohol,then he should have been able to call for help,or did the nyama choma take a way the phone? ......was the door broken into? or did the houseboy just walk in and find boss is unwell? ....what time did the houseboy go and check on his boss? mchele? I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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So the report will be ready in 8 to 10 weeks...Tunaweswait
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washiku wrote:So the report will be ready in 8 to 10 weeks...Tunaweswait  No this is a ploy to make us forget. Results can be available within 72hrs even in timbuktu Mutula was a good man and whatever cauaed his demise cannot overshadow his achievements. What ever the cause 1.natural 2.murder 3.chips funga + viagra 4.suicide Let us be told the truth Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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Only reason why a man wld drive to the ranch on a friday and leave the wife behind is a.....?
The only reason your servants wouldnt mind checking on you till 1pm is because you are....?
The only reason an autopsy would take 8 weeks is because......?
Why would they take a shirt and a trouser?..... a trouser?
Who believes a man that had just told his friends his life is in danger would drive himself alone far from family to a ranch in the outskirts of town? Alone....?
A man whose life is in danger left the door open in such a vast house. Why..? I would be scared..Nope! Lets just say a bit careful. what if its one of my servants hired to do the dirty job?
Which man orders some nyama choma after having his Githeri for supper? Kwani hii ni ready made.... ? Nipikie nyama choma sasa.. wacha dessert. choma nyama?
Me thinks we eat nyama choma with time in our hands.. long day or night..
Two drinks... akateremshe nayo nyama.. Who does that when going to sleep.. not this wealthy people.. They know the strict n proper use of a bedroom unless...
Gentlemen and ladies... i have my conclusions..
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poundfoolish wrote:Only reason why a man wld drive to the ranch on a friday and leave the wife behind is a.....?
The only reason your servants wouldnt mind checking on you till 1pm is because you are....?
The only reason an autopsy would take 8 weeks is because......?
Why would they take a shirt and a trouser?..... a trouser?
Who believes a man that had just told his friends his life is in danger would drive himself alone far from family to a ranch in the outskirts of town? Alone....?
A man whose life is in danger left the door open in such a vast house. Why..? I would be scared..Nope! Lets just say a bit careful. what if its one of my servants hired to do the dirty job?
Which man orders some nyama choma after having his Githeri for supper? Kwani hii ni ready made.... ? Nipikie nyama choma sasa.. wacha dessert. choma nyama?
Me thinks we eat nyama choma with time in our hands.. long day or night..
Two drinks... akateremshe nayo nyama.. Who does that when going to sleep.. not this wealthy people.. They know the strict n proper use of a bedroom unless...
Gentlemen and ladies... i have my conclusions.. Are you one of the writers/editor of those 10/- gazettis. Kila nyani ana starehe zake. Dont expect everyone to live like you. Mutula went to his ranch every wkd, he loved it. Pia mimi ukula githeri na nyake...shida iko wapi? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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