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Rank: Member Joined: 8/3/2009 Posts: 249
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Tokyo wrote:The senator was sleeping "alone" with the door "unlocked" . we argued this thing over the weekend with a couple of pals kwani how do people sleep in here?I do it in the nude and my door doesnt even have a key it potead kitambo sana... Me too, I go in between white sheets the way I was born...I dont lock my bedroom door for heaven sake, how will you escape in case of emergency like fire?There is nothing wrong with the door not closed, can they prove that in the past he used to sleep with doors closed?  so incase of a fire...if u dont have time to unlock the door, will you have time to grab a boxer or will you dash outside 'Addis ababa' ???
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Looks like the permission has finally been granted! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:TAZ wrote:@ Mc Reggae, check today's nation newpaper. Just seen it, that pic implies he took dinner in the bedroom, the accounts from the workers suggest otherwise as I think the breakfast was served where he had taken dinner. The brother in law was the 1st to be summoned, he got to the ranch and got the Senator in bad shape and LEFT him to rush back to the lodge to get back to the lodge to get some dcotors who had spent the night there.....mmmmhhhh!!!!!! Sasa ni Findeo.... .....and the vomit, was it really Mutula's.....if he had the strength to walk back to the bed, he should have cleaned it up and maybe try to call somebody for help!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Cupcake wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Tokyo wrote:The senator was sleeping "alone" with the door "unlocked" . we argued this thing over the weekend with a couple of pals kwani how do people sleep in here?I do it in the nude and my door doesnt even have a key it potead kitambo sana... Me too, I go in between white sheets the way I was born...I dont lock my bedroom door for heaven sake, how will you escape in case of emergency like fire?There is nothing wrong with the door not closed, can they prove that in the past he used to sleep with doors closed?  so incase of a fire...if u dont have time to unlock the door, will you have time to grab a boxer or will you dash outside 'Addis ababa' ??? Just like the Dayof Judgement, you won't even notice that you'll be naked, leave alone notice your neighbour. Because the tremor will be so overwhemlming to care about whether to grab a boxer or not
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:TAZ wrote:@ Mc Reggae, check today's nation newpaper. Just seen it, that pic implies he took dinner in the bedroom, the accounts from the workers suggest otherwise as I think the breakfast was served where he had taken dinner. The brother in law was the 1st to be summoned, he got to the ranch and got the Senator in bad shape and LEFT him to rush back to the lodge to get back to the lodge to get some dcotors who had spent the night there.....mmmmhhhh!!!!!! Sasa ni Findeo.... .....and the vomit, was it really Mutula's.....if he had the strength to walk back to the bed, he should have cleaned it up and maybe try to call somebody for help!!! Hata mimi i couldn't understand that, why would he go back straight to bed after vomiting all over his bedroom.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:Looks like the permission has finally been granted! And he is heading to the hotel, he will be at Lee Funeral home by 2pm. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:maka wrote:McReggae wrote:....pass!!!
....so what is not happening at the airport???? on matters regarding a work permit? Yeah!!! Officers at Immigratin are reportedly relactant to issue the pathologist with a work permit citing direction from above. and we want to raise our tourism numbers to what again?3 million or thereabout... not immigrant workers! tourism adds value... immigrant workers - don't (not directly). immigration does not just give work permits on demand however in this case they will be prevailed upon to do just that. why didn't he say he is here on business not work. - those two are very different things. Is he coming to work or only conduct a single post mortem procedure...work permits differ and legally speaking they are issued for a minimum of 2 ears with the employer applying on behalf of the employee...it is a clear misconstruction to allege that the doctor must have a work permit yet he isnt even seeking employment here.Next itasemekana that lecturer's who come to issue guest lectures must apply for work permits as well,guest athletes the list will be endless where will we draw the line?? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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TAZ wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:TAZ wrote:@ Mc Reggae, check today's nation newpaper. Just seen it, that pic implies he took dinner in the bedroom, the accounts from the workers suggest otherwise as I think the breakfast was served where he had taken dinner. The brother in law was the 1st to be summoned, he got to the ranch and got the Senator in bad shape and LEFT him to rush back to the lodge to get back to the lodge to get some dcotors who had spent the night there.....mmmmhhhh!!!!!! Sasa ni Findeo.... .....and the vomit, was it really Mutula's.....if he had the strength to walk back to the bed, he should have cleaned it up and maybe try to call somebody for help!!! Hata mimi i couldn't understand that, why would he go back straight to bed after vomiting all over his bedroom. So are u suggesting a Mwende was involved? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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sign maka wrote:masukuma wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:maka wrote:McReggae wrote:....pass!!!
....so what is not happening at the airport???? on matters regarding a work permit? Yeah!!! Officers at Immigratin are reportedly relactant to issue the pathologist with a work permit citing direction from above. and we want to raise our tourism numbers to what again?3 million or thereabout... not immigrant workers! tourism adds value... immigrant workers - don't (not directly). immigration does not just give work permits on demand however in this case they will be prevailed upon to do just that. why didn't he say he is here on business not work. - those two are very different things. Is he coming to work or only conduct a single post mortem procedure...work permits differ and legally speaking they are issued for a minimum of 2 ears with the employer applying on behalf of the employee...it is a clear misconstruction to allege that the doctor must have a work permit yet he isnt even seeking employment here.Next itasemekana that lecturer's who come to issue guest lectures must apply for work permits as well,guest athletes the list will be endless where will we draw the line?? Immgration for all intents and purposes exist to regulate entry and residence of foreigners in a country. Thus how visas were devised. For short assignments, there are special passes issued valid for max 3months. This is what they ought to apply for.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:masukuma wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:maka wrote:McReggae wrote:....pass!!!
....so what is not happening at the airport???? on matters regarding a work permit? Yeah!!! Officers at Immigratin are reportedly relactant to issue the pathologist with a work permit citing direction from above. and we want to raise our tourism numbers to what again?3 million or thereabout... not immigrant workers! tourism adds value... immigrant workers - don't (not directly). immigration does not just give work permits on demand however in this case they will be prevailed upon to do just that. why didn't he say he is here on business not work. - those two are very different things. Is he coming to work or only conduct a single post mortem procedure...work permits differ and legally speaking they are issued for a minimum of 2 ears with the employer applying on behalf of the employee...it is a clear misconstruction to allege that the doctor must have a work permit yet he isnt even seeking employment here.Next itasemekana that lecturer's who come to issue guest lectures must apply for work permits as well,guest athletes the list will be endless where will we draw the line?? it depends on what the guy wrote on his immigration form "Reason for travel"... yeye ndio alijifunga.... for me... I work/consult in Africa and Asia but i was initiated when I once proudly wrote 'to work for xxxy' on that section while submitting my form to the embassy. i got my 3 months visa after 2 months. International travel requires wisdom.... no one refuses entry for a business man or tourists especially if they have visas on entry. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:TAZ wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:TAZ wrote:@ Mc Reggae, check today's nation newpaper. Just seen it, that pic implies he took dinner in the bedroom, the accounts from the workers suggest otherwise as I think the breakfast was served where he had taken dinner. The brother in law was the 1st to be summoned, he got to the ranch and got the Senator in bad shape and LEFT him to rush back to the lodge to get back to the lodge to get some dcotors who had spent the night there.....mmmmhhhh!!!!!! Sasa ni Findeo.... .....and the vomit, was it really Mutula's.....if he had the strength to walk back to the bed, he should have cleaned it up and maybe try to call somebody for help!!! Hata mimi i couldn't understand that, why would he go back straight to bed after vomiting all over his bedroom. So are u suggesting a Mwende was involved? Or vomit planted to divert attention!!!!..iwe safi kama pamba!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:maka wrote:masukuma wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:maka wrote:McReggae wrote:....pass!!!
....so what is not happening at the airport???? on matters regarding a work permit? Yeah!!! Officers at Immigratin are reportedly relactant to issue the pathologist with a work permit citing direction from above. and we want to raise our tourism numbers to what again?3 million or thereabout... not immigrant workers! tourism adds value... immigrant workers - don't (not directly). immigration does not just give work permits on demand however in this case they will be prevailed upon to do just that. why didn't he say he is here on business not work. - those two are very different things. Is he coming to work or only conduct a single post mortem procedure...work permits differ and legally speaking they are issued for a minimum of 2 ears with the employer applying on behalf of the employee...it is a clear misconstruction to allege that the doctor must have a work permit yet he isnt even seeking employment here.Next itasemekana that lecturer's who come to issue guest lectures must apply for work permits as well,guest athletes the list will be endless where will we draw the line?? it depends on what the guy wrote on his immigration form "Reason for travel"... yeye ndio alijifunga.... for me... I work/consult in Africa and Asia but i was initiated when I once proudly wrote 'to work for xxxy' on that section while submitting my form to the embassy. i got my 3 months visa after 2 months. International travel requires wisdom.... no one refuses entry for a business man or tourists especially if they have visas on entry. UK guys get their visas at the port of entry....there are different categories of visas...tourist,education,work,investor etc.. My problem is the use of work permit yet he was not comming to work per se...the special passes are available but I'm not convinced because UK residents and indeed commonwealth brethren except India and Pakistan,Malaysia...get their visas when they reach Kenya...hakuna cha application anywhere. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2011 Posts: 176
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:TAZ wrote:@ Mc Reggae, check today's nation newpaper. Just seen it, that pic implies he took dinner in the bedroom, the accounts from the workers suggest otherwise as I think the breakfast was served where he had taken dinner. The brother in law was the 1st to be summoned, he got to the ranch and got the Senator in bad shape and LEFT him to rush back to the lodge to get back to the lodge to get some dcotors who had spent the night there.....mmmmhhhh!!!!!! Sasa ni Findeo.... .....and the vomit, was it really Mutula's.....if he had the strength to walk back to the bed, he should have cleaned it up and maybe try to call somebody for help!!! my take.. usually when one vomits, they take water to clean their mouth of the sour taste. is there any evidence marehemu left the room to go and take some water? also one would take time to feel better rather than go back to sleep
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:masukuma wrote:maka wrote:masukuma wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:maka wrote:McReggae wrote:....pass!!!
....so what is not happening at the airport???? on matters regarding a work permit? Yeah!!! Officers at Immigratin are reportedly relactant to issue the pathologist with a work permit citing direction from above. and we want to raise our tourism numbers to what again?3 million or thereabout... not immigrant workers! tourism adds value... immigrant workers - don't (not directly). immigration does not just give work permits on demand however in this case they will be prevailed upon to do just that. why didn't he say he is here on business not work. - those two are very different things. Is he coming to work or only conduct a single post mortem procedure...work permits differ and legally speaking they are issued for a minimum of 2 ears with the employer applying on behalf of the employee...it is a clear misconstruction to allege that the doctor must have a work permit yet he isnt even seeking employment here.Next itasemekana that lecturer's who come to issue guest lectures must apply for work permits as well,guest athletes the list will be endless where will we draw the line?? it depends on what the guy wrote on his immigration form "Reason for travel"... yeye ndio alijifunga.... for me... I work/consult in Africa and Asia but i was initiated when I once proudly wrote 'to work for xxxy' on that section while submitting my form to the embassy. i got my 3 months visa after 2 months. International travel requires wisdom.... no one refuses entry for a business man or tourists especially if they have visas on entry. UK guys get their visas at the port of entry....there are different categories of visas...tourist,education,work,investor etc.. My problem is the use of work permit yet he was not comming to work per se...the special passes are available but I'm not convinced because UK residents and indeed commonwealth brethren except India and Pakistan,Malaysia...get their visas when they reach Kenya...hakuna cha application anywhere. it all depends on what he wrote.... even members of the limited commonwealth are not admitted bila questions it all depends on what they say they are here to do. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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@masukuma, It doesn't matter what you wrote if your arrival is known and they are WAITING for you!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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But, after the postmortem is done, will it be admissible in a Kenyan court of law? For a portmortem done by a foreign doctor in Kenya, how will they prove the circumstances that led to the autopsy being done by a doctor not registered by the MPDB? A doctor of the experience and integrity to perform and report the autopsy could not be found in Kenya? Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2012 Posts: 180
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jguru wrote:But, after the postmortem is done, will it be admissible in a Kenyan court of law? For a portmortem done by a foreign doctor in Kenya, how will they prove the circumstances that led to the autopsy being done by a doctor not registered by the MPDB? A doctor of the experience and integrity to perform and report the autopsy could not be found in Kenya? I think the same rules as for lawyers apply. Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Behemoth wrote:jguru wrote:But, after the postmortem is done, will it be admissible in a Kenyan court of law? For a portmortem done by a foreign doctor in Kenya, how will they prove the circumstances that led to the autopsy being done by a doctor not registered by the MPDB? A doctor of the experience and integrity to perform and report the autopsy could not be found in Kenya? I think the same rules as for lawyers apply. We call foreign experts to adduce evidence all the time. And it is illogical to assume that for a doctor he must have passed by MDPB. The applicable rules of evidence are to be found in the Evidence ACT. The General restriction on admissibility of Evidence is at Section 5 of that Act. The only admissible evidence is the evidence of the existence or non existence of a fact that is relevant. Under Section 48 when the court has to form an opinion on a point of science such as this that opinion is admissible if made by a person specially skilled in such foreign law or science. Nowhere does it say that person has to be registered to practise or even approved to practise in Kenya. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/12/2009 Posts: 925
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......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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callaspade wrote:......I sincerely hope nyama choma is not the name of a human being possunt quia posse videntur
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