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mwekez@ji
#31 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:48:14 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Co-op Bank---16.5%
Barclays bank---15.5%
KCB---16%
HFCK---18%


On Coop, BBK, KCB, is that base rate or the effective rate coz for the HFCK it is effective rate and its revision is long overdue


.... and any idea on the loan processing fees charged by each of these lenders and any other charges imposed on the lending?
mwekez@ji
#32 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:51:17 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Co-op Bank---16.5%
Barclays bank---15.5%
KCB---16%
HFCK---18%


On Coop, BBK, KCB, is that base rate or the effective rate coz for the HFCK it is effective rate and its revision is long overdue


.... and any idea on the loan processing fees charged by each of these lenders and any other charges imposed on the lending?


cc @Banker, et al
Ericsson
#33 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:56:38 AM
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That is the rate u will get when u for example want to take a 15 year mortgage rate.
I have visited the mentioned banks and that is the rate.
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#34 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:00:26 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
That is the rate u will get when u for example want to take a 15 year mortgage rate.
I have visited the mentioned banks and that is the rate.
Hidden fees? How is the process i.e. they want you first born too?
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Ericsson
#35 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:19:34 PM
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The hidden fees are mostly one-off charges which all the banks charge
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mwekez@ji
#36 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:31:29 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
The hidden fees are mostly one-off charges which all the banks charge


Wrong assumption. Some banks will haunt you during the whole tenor of the loan with numerous charges. Thats why one is always strongly adviced to read the fine prints before signing the dotted lines. Mate, dont get your neck in the noose of the hangman with such assumption
Ericsson
#37 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:35:06 PM
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which hidden charges are u saying kindly specify them.
The usual charges am talking about are annual fire,insurance and ledger fees plus late payment penalty
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mwekez@ji
#38 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:42:03 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
which hidden charges are u saying kindly specify them.
The usual charges am talking about are annual fire,insurance and ledger fees plus late payment penalty


... loan processing fees (is it annual or a one-off-fee, that varies among the lenders and loans) ledger fees (what amount, and note some bank dont charge this on loan accounts), prepayment fees (some banks will charge you crazy amounts for this and some will not charge you a penny), any charges on release of funds before security perfection, etc etc etc etc etc etc ... all in the fine prints
Ericsson
#39 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:46:47 PM
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Loan processing fee is an one-off and is usually 1% of the loan amount
Ledger fees is about ksh.350 to 400.

Calculate a loan of ksh.4m for 15 years using co-op @16.5% and HFCK @18% and then see the difference in amount and u will realise what am saying that HFCK is gonna face stiff compe
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mwekez@ji
#40 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:59:12 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Loan processing fee is an one-off and is usually 1% of the loan amount
Ledger fees is about ksh.350 to 400.

Calculate a loan of ksh.4m for 15 years using co-op @16.5% and HFCK @18% and then see the difference in amount and u will realise what am saying that HFCK is gonna face stiff compe


even putting aside the hidden charges (coz they tend to be hidden in the fine prints that many dont read), interest rates wont maintain that differential for a long time. Am even thinking that coop could be charging that so as to gain acceptance in the new market and could be shouldering some cost which will end up being shouldered by someone. Read the prints well to ensure you dont lose out in the end ... BTW, I am also invested in coop and my advice to you is coz you are a wazuan and i would want you to get the best loan deal. I have nothing against coop bank and especially from an investment perspective. It is a good investment that will make investors money.
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