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KenolKobil FY 2012 substrata loss of 9b!
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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How did they have options yet kenya does not have a futures market? LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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Tough times. Vivo/Shell fires management execs. http://www.businessdaily.../1/-/2mn6vw/-/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:Good to note that JIS has stock options of 20million shares in KK...if the KK stock at the NSE continues to tank he might not be able to exercise them...although I dont know the strike price, options can go underwater if a stock tanks...that will be a huge loss to JIS...i'm sure that's his retirement plan. The information is in the Annual Report. Read it. If you cannot find the answer, holla! And I like it that he has options though I prefer he buys the shares with restrictions on the sales which makes him even more invested! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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kyt wrote:How did they have options yet kenya does not have a futures market? They are mutually exclusive events. Kenya does not have a Commodities Exchange yet maize/wheat/sugar is bought & sold daily. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Large trades totaling 2.24m vol at 9 already! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Large trades totaling 2.24m vol at 9 already! Was wondering the same.Seems someone was dreaming of KK.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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Bought me some. BIDS 92,900 Quantity Price Splits Time 900 8.90 1 09:46:46 12,000 8.75 1 09:46:46 20,000 8.60 1 09:46:46 60,000 8.50 2 09:46:46 - - - - ASKS 325,500 Quantity Price Splits Time 2,200 9.00 2 09:46:46 25,000 9.50 1 09:46:46 276,500 9.70 2 09:46:46 10,800 10.00 2 09:46:46 11,000 11.00 3 09:46:46 TRADES Quantity Price Time 1,300 9.00 09:46:40 3,600 9.00 09:46:39 3,600 9.00 09:46:39 1,500 9.00 09:45:26 10,000 9.00 09:42:04 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Volume still testing supply. Let'see how resilient this 9/- floor is. Since many view it as a major support level, if it breaks the dam burst will be interesting... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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Started my not so surreptitious re-entry into KeKe @ 9. I still expect a lower price to ensue but I can live with 9 even if it goes lower.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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mwanahisa wrote:Started my not so surreptitious re-entry into KeKe @ 9. I still expect a lower price to ensue but I can live with 9 even if it goes lower. The last trade at 9.50 for 57,000 shares... Already on the way up? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:mwanahisa wrote:Started my not so surreptitious re-entry into KeKe @ 9. I still expect a lower price to ensue but I can live with 9 even if it goes lower. The last trade at 9.50 for 57,000 shares... Already on the way up? I wish i had sold at 16-17, but i am happy i sold some at 14.50 and 10.50 on the way down. At Sh 5-7 I will average down. There is a good chance that we will get there. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mwanahisa wrote:Started my not so surreptitious re-entry into KeKe @ 9. I still expect a lower price to ensue but I can live with 9 even if it goes lower. The last trade at 9.50 for 57,000 shares... Already on the way up? I wish i had sold at 16-17, but i am happy i sold some at 14.50 and 10.50 on the way down. At Sh 5-7 I will average down. There is a good chance that we will get there. LMAO, I hope not. As much as I like buying at lower prices... getting to 7 might break my spirit. I am OK with a drop to 8. Why 8 & not 7? Psychological? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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The lower the price the better especially for those of us who had managed to get out when the announcement of the failure of the takeover & 2nd profit warnings were made. As they say you make your money when you buy at a good price. If we get sparkly's price, I would dance a jig!!! VituVingiSana wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mwanahisa wrote:Started my not so surreptitious re-entry into KeKe @ 9. I still expect a lower price to ensue but I can live with 9 even if it goes lower. The last trade at 9.50 for 57,000 shares... Already on the way up? I wish i had sold at 16-17, but i am happy i sold some at 14.50 and 10.50 on the way down. At Sh 5-7 I will average down. There is a good chance that we will get there. LMAO, I hope not. As much as I like buying at lower prices... getting to 7 might break my spirit. I am OK with a drop to 8. Why 8 & not 7? Psychological?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Bids accumulating at 9.00 again now 1 million . get ready for the next large trade. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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mwanahisa wrote:The lower the price the better especially for those of us who had managed to get out when the announcement of the failure of the takeover & 2nd profit warnings were made. As they say you make your money when you buy at a good price. If we get sparkly's price, I would dance a jig!!! VituVingiSana wrote:sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mwanahisa wrote:Started my not so surreptitious re-entry into KeKe @ 9. I still expect a lower price to ensue but I can live with 9 even if it goes lower. The last trade at 9.50 for 57,000 shares... Already on the way up? I wish i had sold at 16-17, but i am happy i sold some at 14.50 and 10.50 on the way down. At Sh 5-7 I will average down. There is a good chance that we will get there. LMAO, I hope not. As much as I like buying at lower prices... getting to 7 might break my spirit. I am OK with a drop to 8. Why 8 & not 7? Psychological? As I said, my reasoning makes little logical sense  but in principle I agree with you. I prefer a lower price since I am NOT a seller at these prices. I would buy more... And await the payday in 2014. I believe another buyer will show up in 2014... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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Bids at 9.00 for over 2mn shares. KK will ramp higher once the supply at 9.50 or lower is taken out. Seeing the bids, I believe the supply will go poof. BIDS 2.41M Quantity Price Splits Time 57,500 9.10 2 11:21:42 69,200 9.05 8 11:21:42 2.08M 9.00 17 11:21:42 900 8.90 1 11:21:42 20,000 8.60 1 11:21:42 ASKS 401,300 Quantity Price Splits Time 3,000 9.40 1 11:21:42 100,000 9.50 2 11:21:42 276,500 9.70 2 11:21:42 10,800 10.00 2 11:21:42 11,000 11.00 3 11:21:42 TRADES Quantity Price Time 10,000 9.15 11:14:50 8,000 9.15 11:14:50 23,600 9.30 11:14:50 25,000 9.30 11:11:56 1,400 9.30 11:08:06 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Bid 2,160,400 @9.00 for now protecting the floor. But intraday VWAP (9.00) still reads lower than the previous close of 9.10. Patience... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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hisah wrote:Bid 2,160,400 @9.00 for now protecting the floor. But intraday VWAP (9.00) still reads lower than the previous close of 9.10. Patience... PPT @9.00 giving the bears a hard time
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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Unlikely this price will drop below 9. It appears there was a bigger seller who may have already finished selling. And I suspect it's the same seller who has been selling from 11. Without this seller I doubt anyone else will be selling soon at 9.00.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Kausha wrote:Unlikely this price will drop below 9. It appears there was a bigger seller who may have already finished selling. And I suspect it's the same seller who has been selling from 11. Without this seller I doubt anyone else will be selling soon at 9.00. I suspect the same. I hope they aint done. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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