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#3481 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:36:17 PM
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karanjakinuthia wrote:
Europe is dead in the water. Nigel Farage tells it as it is.

"Years ago, Mrs Thatcher recognised the truth behind the European Project. She saw that it was about taking away democracy from nation states and handing that power to largely unaccountable people.

Knowing as she did that the euro would not work she saw that this was a very dangerous design. Now we in UKIP take that same view and I tried over the years in this parliament to predict what the next moves would be as the euro disaster unfolded...."

http://www.youtube.com/w...edded&v=BfK3_kJ4z7k



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#3482 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 6:22:42 AM
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karanjakinuthia wrote:
@Hisah. This what we call a waterfall event in sentiment. Not a bull to be found in gold?

Volatility in the remaining part of April and May will remain high. The market will bottom once the selling pressure is complete and swing in the opposite direction as long term buyers such as Hisah flock back in:

http://www.bangkokpost.c...ush-in-as-prices-plunge

http://www.chinadaily.co...17/content_16413827.htm

http://www.bloomberg.com...hoppers-to-bazaars.html

hisah wrote:
@kk - have a look at $BPGDM - bullish gold miners index.


Yep. Not a single bull in sight. What a waterfall moment as negative sentiment goes through the roof and yet capitulation hasn't happened!

I'm trying to read the tea leaves and I can see this is a veiled attack at asia. China has gold/silver accounts for the public. At capitulation phase those gold/silver deposit accounts will have taken a sizable haircut.

Is the USD hegemony sending a message?

The value of USD, €, £ or yen now is so badly off than pre GFC, yet these fiat currencies are now getting muscular vs gold/silver/platinum.

What a waterfall or fat-tail moment... Such discounts take ages to come by.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#3483 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 6:35:05 AM
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kk - just wondering if gold could hit the 0.5 (50%) fibo retracement level from the 1921 high down to 960 in case it overshoots the 38.2% level (1187).
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#3484 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 6:44:21 AM
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kyt wrote:
Appl at below $400, someone was heard saying it was a stock that will reach $1000. Wonders never cease.

This made good money from March 2012 to Nov 2012 on the bull side. Then it triggered a reversal similar to gold back in Nov 2011. It'll behave like gold! On the sell side the yuan strength has been the trade guide. Still short until the trend reversal happens. By then the news will be asking how much lower in disbelief...
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#3485 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 1:06:38 PM
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@Hisah, a 62% decline would be possible and gold would still be in a bull market.

hisah wrote:
kk - just wondering if gold could hit the 0.5 (50%) fibo retracement level from the 1921 high down to 960 in case it overshoots the 38.2% level (1187).
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#3486 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2013 1:38:52 PM
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@Hisah. The United States rose from near bankruptcy in 1896 to own 76% of the world's gold in 1944. Along the way, Britain hit its peak as the economic superpower and by 1931 has to request for a 6 month moratorium as Europe defaulted on its debt. The U.S. was the largest creditor in the world as China is right now. During WWII, the U.S. homeland was unscathed and it therefore became the arms dealer and food supplier to Europe.

We are witnessing a shift in economic power from the West to the East as the latter is the gold buyer on dips. Common sense would dictate that the Westerners would be buying gold to hedge against government. However, capital does not feel safe in the West. The thirst of government tax men grows day by day. Furthermore, capital recalls the institutional confiscation of gold carried out by FDR and would rather buy common stocks and real estate, much less prone to confiscation.

hisah wrote:
karanjakinuthia wrote:
@Hisah. This what we call a waterfall event in sentiment. Not a bull to be found in gold?

Volatility in the remaining part of April and May will remain high. The market will bottom once the selling pressure is complete and swing in the opposite direction as long term buyers such as Hisah flock back in:

http://www.bangkokpost.c...ush-in-as-prices-plunge

http://www.chinadaily.co...17/content_16413827.htm

http://www.bloomberg.com...hoppers-to-bazaars.html

hisah wrote:
@kk - have a look at $BPGDM - bullish gold miners index.


Yep. Not a single bull in sight. What a waterfall moment as negative sentiment goes through the roof and yet capitulation hasn't happened!

I'm trying to read the tea leaves and I can see this is a veiled attack at asia. China has gold/silver accounts for the public. At capitulation phase those gold/silver deposit accounts will have taken a sizable haircut.

Is the USD hegemony sending a message?

The value of USD, €, £ or yen now is so badly off than pre GFC, yet these fiat currencies are now getting muscular vs gold/silver/platinum.

What a waterfall or fat-tail moment... Such discounts take ages to come by.

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#3487 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:50:35 AM
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Aram Shishmanian, CEO, World Gold Council: "It has become increasingly clear over the course of the past week that
the fall in the gold price was triggered by speculative traders operating in the futures markets. Their short-
term view of generating a trading profit is in stark
contrast to the views of long term investors in gold, as evidenced by the massive wave of physical gold buying that began over the weekend and accelerated following Monday's further decline.
http://m.economictimes.c...rticleshow/19630348.cms
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#3488 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:46:36 AM
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The 'good guys' called CFTC have finally arrived at the gold market crime scene to 'investigate' the 2 day thunderous price crash - http://www.ibtimes.com/c...y-say-blackrock-1200873

It looks & feels like a bottom for now, but the selling is not yet done...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#3489 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:55:44 AM
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Lufthansa cancels 1700 flights due to union strike this Monday - http://www.reuters.com/a...p;feedName=businessNews

This airline industry has had a huge spike of labour wars, profit collapse, bankruptcies etc since 2011. More than meets the eye...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#3490 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2013 6:57:18 AM
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I like this magazine since it has proven over 7yrs to be a reliable contrarian signal. Back towards end of Oct 2012 the cover story bid farewell to the bull run in US. A month later the opposite happened and now we see all time highs.

http://online.barrons.co...articleTabs_article%3D1

Back in March 2008 the cover story encouraged guys to buy the dip after the Bear Sterns panic since professionals were buying the discount. Need I say more...

This month the cover reads Dow 16000 with 74% of the surveyed money managers (professionals) bullish.

Next month will definitely be interesting for contra plays...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#3491 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:48:50 AM
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Hackers send fake market-moving AP tweet on White House explosions

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Reuters data showed the tweet briefly wiped out $136.5 billion of the S&P 500 index's value before markets recovered. Some traders attributed the sharp fall and bounce-back to automatic electronic trading.


Convenient for CISPA.I wonder who was shorting stocks.Hack-Attack
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#3492 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:04:10 PM
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symbols wrote:
Hackers send fake market-moving AP tweet on White House explosions

Quote:
Reuters data showed the tweet briefly wiped out $136.5 billion of the S&P 500 index's value before markets recovered. Some traders attributed the sharp fall and bounce-back to automatic electronic trading.


Convenient for CISPA.I wonder who was shorting stocks.Hack-Attack

Trading the US session since the May 2010 flash crash is akin to Las Vegas... No fundies nor TA functions right in the market. 200% plus (for lack of a better measuring gauge) manipulation hotbed with HFTs fighting out the trading contests.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#3493 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:36:00 PM
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hisah wrote:
symbols wrote:
Hackers send fake market-moving AP tweet on White House explosions

Quote:
Reuters data showed the tweet briefly wiped out $136.5 billion of the S&P 500 index's value before markets recovered. Some traders attributed the sharp fall and bounce-back to automatic electronic trading.


Convenient for CISPA.I wonder who was shorting stocks.Hack-Attack

Trading the US session since the May 2010 flash crash is akin to Las Vegas... No fundies nor TA functions right in the market. 200% plus (for lack of a better measuring gauge) manipulation hotbed with HFTs fighting out the trading contests.


When it comes to that we are in agreement about HFT.Watched a documentary about it and I was just shocked.
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#3494 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:27:57 PM
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2012 World Gold Production
http://www.miningfeeds.c...d-gold-production-2013/

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#3495 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:30:10 PM
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@Cde found this rather awakening http://www.moneynews.com...0265?PROMO_CODE=12670-1 Dejavu?
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#3496 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:36:45 PM
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hisah wrote:
I like this magazine since it has proven over 7yrs to be a reliable contrarian signal. Back towards end of Oct 2012 the cover story bid farewell to the bull run in US. A month later the opposite happened and now we see all time highs.

http://online.barrons.co...articleTabs_article%3D1

Back in March 2008 the cover story encouraged guys to buy the dip after the Bear Sterns panic since professionals were buying the discount. Need I say more...

This month the cover reads Dow 16000 with 74% of the surveyed money managers (professionals) bullish.

Next month will definitely be interesting for contra plays...

This http://www.moneynews.com...0265?PROMO_CODE=12670-1 fits better here.
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#3497 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:42:56 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
I like this magazine since it has proven over 7yrs to be a reliable contrarian signal. Back towards end of Oct 2012 the cover story bid farewell to the bull run in US. A month later the opposite happened and now we see all time highs.

http://online.barrons.co...articleTabs_article%3D1

Back in March 2008 the cover story encouraged guys to buy the dip after the Bear Sterns panic since professionals were buying the discount. Need I say more...

This month the cover reads Dow 16000 with 74% of the surveyed money managers (professionals) bullish.

Next month will definitely be interesting for contra plays...

This http://www.moneynews.com...0265?PROMO_CODE=12670-1 fits better here.

And off the scale insider selling since Sept 2012.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#3498 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:13:28 PM
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Interesting also how Apple is being raided for its cash pile post Jobs. Did I hear Hedge Funds?? smile smile
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#3499 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:09:50 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@Cde found this rather awakening http://www.moneynews.com...0265?PROMO_CODE=12670-1 Dejavu?


Intel and Johnson & Johnson.I didn't expect that.
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#3500 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:43:40 PM
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