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Bachelor of Economics & Statistics
AlphDoti
#21 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46:50 PM
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While at it, how you great Wazuans think about this selection with mean grade of A- (AVG 80)?
1. First selection
a). UON - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (47.1)
b). JKUAT - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.8)
c). KU - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.5)
2. Second selection: MOI - BACHELOR OF ENGINEERING (Electrical and Telecomm. Eng.) (46.5)
3. Third selection: JKUAT - Bachelor of Business Information Technology (BBIT) (45.6)
4. Fourth selection: KU - Bachelor of Science (Energy Engineering) (43.7)

Math (A)
Bio (A)
Chem (A)
His & Gov (A)
Geog (A)
Eng (A-)
Physics (B+)
Kisw (B)
MaichBlack
#22 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:58:25 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
Bree wrote:
This girl got an A- in KCSE 2012 & is very keen on taking Bachelor of Economics & Statistics course at UoN/KU.
I have researched on the course, what it entails and possible career positions, but I found it a bit vague.

Please advice if it’s best to go ahead, why and what will she become after graduating 4yrs later.

Where will she get her internship, job? & the overall question, is it good as a career choice?

Asanteni smile


I wanted to study economics but my old man told me "well it wont make you rich but at least you will understand why we are poor"...never forgot those words

It's a good thing your dad was not Kibaki's dad!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Bree
#23 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:05:49 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
While at it, how you great Wazuans think about this selection with mean grade of A- (AVG 80)?
1. First selection
a). UON - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (47.1)
b). JKUAT - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.8)
c). KU - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.5)
2. Second selection: MOI - BACHELOR OF ENGINEERING (Electrical and Telecomm. Eng.) (46.5)
3. Third selection: JKUAT - Bachelor of Business Information Technology (BBIT) (45.6)
4. Fourth selection: KU - Bachelor of Science (Energy Engineering) (43.7)

Math (A)
Bio (A)
Chem (A)
His & Gov (A)
Geog (A)
Eng (A-)
Physics (B+)
Kisw (B)


She has 45.9 points if you use trhe JAB calculations, thereby may miss on Comp Scie. See it here... JAB Procedure
MaichBlack
#24 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:13:41 PM
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@AlphDoti - The last time I checked KU was in problems with the Engineering Board for starting Engineering courses without a single qualified lecturer in the areas of specialization, no labs etc. Did they ever sort that out? And how serious is their Computer Science program? KU have a habit of combining classes across departments - even practical oriented units - totally compromising quality!! You might end up with a class of 350 students being taught JAVA with a microphone!!! Do some investigation on these before choosing KU.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
blackcobra
#25 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:39:46 PM
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Bree wrote:
254.co.ke wrote:
From my own experience! My unsolicited advice would let the girl take what is of interest to her. There are those of us who resisted the temptation of being told which course is better than the other and i have never regretted even once.My take is; if that her choice, the opportunities are immense in both government and private sector-However she need to take a professional course after the undergraduate to remain relevant and gain a competitive edge. I might be castigated on this forum for saying the 'bolded course' ain't even anything much but a degree.You need professional papers to be an Actuary. I could be wrong smile


Are you in the same field? What are these professional papers?



My 1st and 2nd degrees are both in Applied statistics, and so far, i do not regret. My changed my course of admission though. Using a variety of commercial software, graduates are expected to analyze real-world data appropriately and communicate their findings effectively.Statistical analysis is an indispensable component of many industries. A diverse range of government agencies,banks, pharmaceutical companies, consulting firms and financial companies just to name a few provides ample employment opportunities for statisticians. BTW, we need statisticians. everywhere. Check out and upcoming education fair in Sarit centre on 2nd - 5th May 2012 and another one for all public Universities some times June or July.
machinani
#26 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43:06 PM
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maka wrote:
Bree wrote:
This girl got an A- in KCSE 2012 & is very keen on taking Bachelor of Economics & Statistics course at UoN/KU.
I have researched on the course, what it entails and possible career positions, but I found it a bit vague.

Please advice if it’s best to go ahead, why and what will she become after graduating 4yrs later.

Where will she get her internship, job? & the overall question, is it good as a career choice?

Asanteni smile

why is it vague according to you?the no. of jobs she can do at this time and age are inexhaustible...




@Maka, A- in 2012 is the new average!!!unless she can afford module 2, you will be so surprised that she can’t even 'qualify' for the course(UON). She will end up doing sociology, psychology and the likes.
[i]'The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all'
jguru
#27 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:44:29 PM
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Posts: 1,574
AlphDoti wrote:
While at it, how you great Wazuans think about this selection with mean grade of A- (AVG 80)?
1. First selection
a). UON - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (47.1)
b). JKUAT - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.8)
c). KU - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.5)
2. Second selection: MOI - BACHELOR OF ENGINEERING (Electrical and Telecomm. Eng.) (46.5)
3. Third selection: JKUAT - Bachelor of Business Information Technology (BBIT) (45.6)
4. Fourth selection: KU - Bachelor of Science (Energy Engineering) (43.7)

Math (A)
Bio (A)
Chem (A)
His & Gov (A)
Geog (A)
Eng (A-)
Physics (B+)
Kisw (B)


VERY ambitious.

I remember we were adviced, VERY many years ago in high school, that for option 3 and 4 to choose courses that do not need a very high weighted average. Just in case.

JAB is quite annoying! He/She can miss out on ALL those choices!

Say, there are 1000 students who applied for Medicine at 48 points, and Medicine only has 200 slots. 200 get MED and the rest get 2nd choices. So if their 2nd choices are Comp Science and there are 200 slots, then the guys who chose Comp Science as first choice will be bumped off to accommodate these candidates who got higher grades. And so no...
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
Mainat
#28 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:50:49 PM
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Economics and Stats is a good combination if you are looking for a career in the following:
-Economist (CBK, KIPRA, lecturer, some of the big banks)
-Econometrician-ditto
-Development economics (you may need further studies for this)-NGOs
-Economics research-same as above two
-Equity analyst working for any of the 20 or so brokers and fund managers.

To get other more lucrative positions, they'll need another qualification
Sehemu ndio nyumba
blackcobra
#29 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:52:14 PM
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Also, we tend to concentrate on UON, KU & JKUAT, therefore pushing the cluster points of particular courses very high. We also need to consider other Universities who offer similar or same courses, but cluster points may be lower. Other Universities include: Maseno, JOOST, Masinde Muliro etc
chiaroscuro
#30 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:55:20 PM
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Bree wrote:
This girl got an A- in KCSE 2012 & is very keen on taking Bachelor of Economics & Statistics course at UoN/KU.
I have researched on the course, what it entails and possible career positions, but I found it a bit vague.

Please advice if it’s best to go ahead, why and what will she become after graduating 4yrs later.

Where will she get her internship, job? & the overall question, is it good as a career choice?

Asanteni smile


Ask her to join wazua and then post the question herself.

Why are you researching courses for her? She's grown up and should now make her own decisions.
jaykay
#31 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:58:59 PM
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@Bree Which Proffession does she want to join?What are her interests? A degree is just one of the paths to your dream career
254.co.ke
#32 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:01:26 PM
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Bree wrote:
254.co.ke wrote:
From my own experience! My unsolicited advice would let the girl take what is of interest to her. There are those of us who resisted the temptation of being told which course is better than the other and i have never regretted even once.My take is; if that her choice, the opportunities are immense in both government and private sector-However she need to take a professional course after the undergraduate to remain relevant and gain a competitive edge. I might be castigated on this forum for saying the 'bolded course' ain't even anything much but a degree.You need professional papers to be an Actuary. I could be wrong smile


Are you in the same field? What are these professional papers?




@Bree...Uuuumh not really, infact in a whole different field (think we share the same career path if iI rem you well from those wazua mbuzis'). Anyway my point was, She must have done her background check before she came to appreciate the course on her own. I cant over emphasize on the importance of these qualification, may be just may be one need to look at the requirements of any serious job offered by such organization as UNDP
jguru
#33 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:27:11 PM
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blackcobra wrote:
Also, we tend to concentrate on UON, KU & JKUAT, therefore pushing the cluster points of particular courses very high. We also need to consider other Universities who offer similar or same courses, but cluster points may be lower. Other Universities include: Maseno, JOOST, Masinde Muliro etc


Those Unis are not worth the paper they are written on. Sad
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
AlphDoti
#34 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:33:38 PM
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Posts: 6,275
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Bree wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
While at it, how you great Wazuans think about this selection with mean grade of A- (AVG 80)?
1. First selection
a). UON - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (47.1)
b). JKUAT - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.8)
c). KU - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.5)
2. Second selection: MOI - BACHELOR OF ENGINEERING (Electrical and Telecomm. Eng.) (46.5)
3. Third selection: JKUAT - Bachelor of Business Information Technology (BBIT) (45.6)
4. Fourth selection: KU - Bachelor of Science (Energy Engineering) (43.7)

Math (A)
Bio (A)
Chem (A)
His & Gov (A)
Geog (A)
Eng (A-)
Physics (B+)
Kisw (B)


She has 45.9 points if you use trhe JAB calculations, thereby may miss on Comp Scie. See it here... JAB Procedure

Pray Pray who's going to pay for parallel now!!!
bkismat
#35 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:36:50 PM
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jguru wrote:
blackcobra wrote:
Also, we tend to concentrate on UON, KU & JKUAT, therefore pushing the cluster points of particular courses very high. We also need to consider other Universities who offer similar or same courses, but cluster points may be lower. Other Universities include: Maseno, JOOST, Masinde Muliro etc


Those Unis are not worth the paper they are written on. Sad

What the hell is JOOST?
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
maka
#36 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:38:41 PM
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Certified Treasury Professional,Certified Treasury Manager,Enterprise Risk Manager,Financial Risk Manager,Certified wealth manager,an Msc in Developmental Finance,Msc in Risk Management,Msc in Finance and Economics...the list is endless...leo jioni ask her whats her end game then you can set up a game plan to achieve this...
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AlphDoti
#37 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:40:02 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
@AlphDoti - The last time I checked KU was in problems with the Engineering Board for starting Engineering courses without a single qualified lecturer in the areas of specialization, no labs etc. Did they ever sort that out? And how serious is their Computer Science program? KU have a habit of combining classes across departments - even practical oriented units - totally compromising quality!! You might end up with a class of 350 students being taught JAVA with a microphone!!! Do some investigation on these before choosing KU.

Thank you for the enlightenment
AlphDoti
#38 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:41:50 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
bkismat wrote:
jguru wrote:
blackcobra wrote:
Also, we tend to concentrate on UON, KU & JKUAT, therefore pushing the cluster points of particular courses very high. We also need to consider other Universities who offer similar or same courses, but cluster points may be lower. Other Universities include: Maseno, JOOST, Masinde Muliro etc


Those Unis are not worth the paper they are written on. Sad

What the hell is JOOST?

@blackcobra, sometimes, esp in academic cases a rose is not rose by any other name
AlphDoti
#39 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:44:13 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
jguru wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
While at it, how you great Wazuans think about this selection with mean grade of A- (AVG 80)?
1. First selection
a). UON - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (47.1)
b). JKUAT - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.8)
c). KU - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.5)
2. Second selection: MOI - BACHELOR OF ENGINEERING (Electrical and Telecomm. Eng.) (46.5)
3. Third selection: JKUAT - Bachelor of Business Information Technology (BBIT) (45.6)
4. Fourth selection: KU - Bachelor of Science (Energy Engineering) (43.7)

Math (A)
Bio (A)
Chem (A)
His & Gov (A)
Geog (A)
Eng (A-)
Physics (B+)
Kisw (B)


VERY ambitious.

I remember we were adviced, VERY many years ago in high school, that for option 3 and 4 to choose courses that do not need a very high weighted average. Just in case.

JAB is quite annoying! He/She can miss out on ALL those choices!

Say, there are 1000 students who applied for Medicine at 48 points, and Medicine only has 200 slots. 200 get MED and the rest get 2nd choices. So if their 2nd choices are Comp Science and there are 200 slots, then the guys who chose Comp Science as first choice will be bumped off to accommodate these candidates who got higher grades. And so no...

Tha analogy makes a lot of sense.
In your opinion, are the above course good in the current market? I'm especially curious about this BBIT Anxious Anxious
Ilikeyou
#40 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:17:44 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
jguru wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
While at it, how you great Wazuans think about this selection with mean grade of A- (AVG 80)?
1. First selection
a). UON - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (47.1)
b). JKUAT - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.8)
c). KU - BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Computer Science) (46.5)
2. Second selection: MOI - BACHELOR OF ENGINEERING (Electrical and Telecomm. Eng.) (46.5)
3. Third selection: JKUAT - Bachelor of Business Information Technology (BBIT) (45.6)
4. Fourth selection: KU - Bachelor of Science (Energy Engineering) (43.7)

Math (A)
Bio (A)
Chem (A)
His & Gov (A)
Geog (A)
Eng (A-)
Physics (B+)
Kisw (B)


VERY ambitious.

I remember we were adviced, VERY many years ago in high school, that for option 3 and 4 to choose courses that do not need a very high weighted average. Just in case.

JAB is quite annoying! He/She can miss out on ALL those choices!

Say, there are 1000 students who applied for Medicine at 48 points, and Medicine only has 200 slots. 200 get MED and the rest get 2nd choices. So if their 2nd choices are Comp Science and there are 200 slots, then the guys who chose Comp Science as first choice will be bumped off to accommodate these candidates who got higher grades. And so no...

Tha analogy makes a lot of sense.
In your opinion, are the above course good in the current market? I'm especially curious about this BBIT Anxious Anxious


To some extent the first degree does 'open' ones mind to think on a wholistic approach
Let her take the degree of choice in any of the 22 universities.
I have a pal who is a marketer and doing well financially but did BA (baba alinituma) English & literature for 1st degree before pursing some business MGT under KIM.

On other related matter, I have noted in atleast 3 universities,most of students taking BCOM avoid accounting specialization in 3rd year.
Finance option has become very common. I 'd however advise it is better to appreciate to prepare FS [as per accounting option] before they embark on analysing FS to assist in decision making on Financing, Dividend,Investment and Working capital management [Finance option]

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