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Solar laptops estimated cost is Ks200bn
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#21 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:04:04 PM
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winston wrote:
And for the starving families...the laptop will be sold on the first day it is issued!

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chiaroscuro
#22 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:09:58 PM
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I think this project is more important to adult Kenyans that it is to the kids who will get the computers.

Kenyans have very low self-esteem. They don't believe they can do anything by themselves..."hiyo haiwezekani Kenya/Africa"!!

Some never believed that a 12-lane highway can be built in Kenya... and now they are saying it was a waste of money! For example this recent opinion article; http://www.standardmedia...the-footsteps-of-Kibaki

In my view; there should be no looking back, no postponement; come Jan 2013, all kids going to class one should get a comp each - let nobody even suggest sharing between two!

This is the sort of project that a nation needs to jolt its psyche so that they can start having a CAN DO attitude instead of the defeatist "IMPOSSIBLE" thinking that was cultivated by Moi over a 24-year misrule.
tom_boy
#23 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:23:13 PM
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Now that I have had a chance to look at the news article, I think it is just rubbish and the writer has ulterior motives.

The computers though expensive initially will save alot in the cost of text books ove r the long term.

We cannot wait for everything to be perfect before implementing a policy. The free primary education system we have now was introduced chaotically. Even though there are many issues with it, I have not heard anyone say " I wish the free primary education was never introduced."

Teacher training is not an issue. A series of seminars is all it will take to introduce them to computers. The content will likely be the same to start with but as time evolves newer content will be developed to keep pace with the times. In due course , there may possibly be an exam in computer programming at std 8 level. Why not?

Teachers will be happier with less work. No more tedious homework and exams to mark. All can be computer based with the kids who get low scores being easily spotted and helped.

Virtual classrooms can spring up. A locality with few math teachers have the teacher teach via video link and all you need is assistants in the class to help the students go through difficult points. The video content can be replayed even while at home until the point gets through.

The possibilities are just endless in my opinion. A situation will even arise where the students will come up with their own solutions to learning challenges.

This, is the future of Learning.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
McReggae
#24 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:27:45 PM
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.....do we have free primary educaction in Kenya, the fees I pay down in the village suggests not!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#25 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:33:38 PM
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Laptops vs. Computer Labs

Congratulations to our brand new president Kenyatta and deputy president Ruto. This is in response to their call to us to support them in taking Kenya forward. My contribution is in the form of ideas.
I wish to contribute to the debate on the promise made of issuing laptops to all children joining standard one in public schools in 2014. This is a noble idea but I believe that we should look at other alternatives that may more effectively meet the objective of introducing Kenyan children to IT at an early age.
My concern is that a laptop will not last very long in the hands of a six year old child. It is likely to be treated like a toy, exposed to rain and dust not to mention that the whole family will want to use it as well. Expect inter-sibling fights over use of the laptop with the young laptop owner likely coming out the loser.
Then there is the issue of insecurity. I fear that a young child walking around with a laptop is an easy target for thugs who are unfortunately all too common in Kenya nowadays.
We also have to contend with the rest of the children in classes 2 to 8 feeling left out. We must look at this from the eyes of a child. All they will see is that the young ones are being favoured. There will be pressure on struggling parents to buy laptops for all their children yet they can hardly afford to feed them well.
In light of these concerns, I propose that instead of issuing laptops to the class one pupils only, it may be more effective and cheaper in the long run to establish computer labs in each public primary school. The computer labs can be equipped with desktop computers for a standard class of say 40 pupils. A new IT lesson should then be introduced in the school curriculum so that all classes get at least a one hour lesson per week. This can then culminate in an IT competency certification process along the lines of the internationally recognized ICDL. This approach will also lead to job creation for the youth because IT instructors will be required in public schools.
On keeping the costs of this project low and guaranteeing the procurement of high quality equipment, procurement laws should be amended to ensure that the government procures goods directly from manufactures only instead of the current use of agents and middlemen. Computer labs can also have a standard design and size so that the cost of building them is kept under control and made comparable across the country. In fact, I would expect that CDF money can be used to build the computer labs and install solar panels in areas without electricity. In any case, KPLC should at the very least supply electricity to all shopping centres, health centres and schools across the whole country.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Bachuma Gate
#26 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:58:02 PM
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McReggae - I think what you are saying is that lets be practicle as we try to achieve this objective.

What you never addressed is unlike personal laptops, the labs can be available over periods of 3 to 5 years while laptops have to be bought every years. Sustainability and financial prudence. ??.

All of us appreciate the need to entrench IT in our kids. The issue here is the best method/approach.
DOH
Mainat
#27 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:59:32 PM
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Who knows where I can buy a solar laptop in Nairobi? Price, specifications? Anybody used one?
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Liv
#28 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 12:59:44 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Quote:
Laptops vs. Computer Labs

Congratulations to our brand new president Kenyatta and deputy president Ruto. This is in response to their call to us to support them in taking Kenya forward. My contribution is in the form of ideas.
I wish to contribute to the debate on the promise made of issuing laptops to all children joining standard one in public schools in 2014. This is a noble idea but I believe that we should look at other alternatives that may more effectively meet the objective of introducing Kenyan children to IT at an early age.
My concern is that a laptop will not last very long in the hands of a six year old child. It is likely to be treated like a toy, exposed to rain and dust not to mention that the whole family will want to use it as well. Expect inter-sibling fights over use of the laptop with the young laptop owner likely coming out the loser.
Then there is the issue of insecurity. I fear that a young child walking around with a laptop is an easy target for thugs who are unfortunately all too common in Kenya nowadays.
We also have to contend with the rest of the children in classes 2 to 8 feeling left out. We must look at this from the eyes of a child. All they will see is that the young ones are being favoured. There will be pressure on struggling parents to buy laptops for all their children yet they can hardly afford to feed them well.
In light of these concerns, I propose that instead of issuing laptops to the class one pupils only, it may be more effective and cheaper in the long run to establish computer labs in each public primary school. The computer labs can be equipped with desktop computers for a standard class of say 40 pupils. A new IT lesson should then be introduced in the school curriculum so that all classes get at least a one hour lesson per week. This can then culminate in an IT competency certification process along the lines of the internationally recognized ICDL. This approach will also lead to job creation for the youth because IT instructors will be required in public schools.
On keeping the costs of this project low and guaranteeing the procurement of high quality equipment, procurement laws should be amended to ensure that the government procures goods directly from manufactures only instead of the current use of agents and middlemen. Computer labs can also have a standard design and size so that the cost of building them is kept under control and made comparable across the country. In fact, I would expect that CDF money can be used to build the computer labs and install solar panels in areas without electricity. In any case, KPLC should at the very least supply electricity to all shopping centres, health centres and schools across the whole country.



1) These school laptops are not meant for computer lessons. They are like pen and paper. They are to be used to learn maths, english, etc... not computer lessons.

2) there are special laptops for this. They are made form plastic, they do not break when they are dropped down, water does not affect them.

3) Laptops will be left in school. Just like text books. The class teacher distributes them every morning and collects them for safe keeping at end of the day.
iller
#29 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 1:16:08 PM
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winston wrote:
Sometimes a good leader must recognise when they have erred and reverse their decisions even if it will cost them an arm and a leg.

Given the state of our educational system, its simply a great idea at the wrong time.

Lets not use the state of urban schools to extrapolate to the village schools...their priorities are a million miles apart.

And for the starving families...the laptop will be sold on the first day it is issued!


Hear, hear!
mlennyma
#30 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2013 1:30:53 PM
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There will be a very big black market for laptops,after we steal them.
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