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KenolKobil FY 2012 substrata loss of 9b!
Kausha
#101 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:17:19 PM
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@VVS obviously it's not Safaricom, but certainly that company will require a bailout. Could be time to revisit the judgement on a certain court case revolving around fund raising don't you think? I wonder what the legal fraternity with think of this judgement if revisited considering the speed at which chickens have come home to roost! I also hope no one will claim force majeure!
erifloss
#102 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:36:34 PM
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erifloss wrote:

#1799 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2011 4:52:27 PM
@vvs, all i'm trying to show is that all the hype around KK as this future gem as it stands right now is wrong.
1. Instead of being noisemakers, they should at least concentrate on lobbying for new legislature BAT or EABL style so as to get what they want.
2. Instead of being a one man show and thus being deprived of new ground breaking ideas, they should separate the responsibilities of the BOD from that of the Management by first having a non executive chairman & maybe reconstitute its management.
3. Instead of only divesting by opening retail business in different countries, they should also look into other lines of the oil business.
4. Globally, the business of oil is highly politicised as we globally are an oil driven economy & thus as an OMC you should always know the best way of dealing with the current politik.
5. Being only 2 listed OMCs, an illusion of comfort is always created by KK coz of its liquidity within the NSE & thus its price fluctuations when as per the last market survey the largest retailer in Kenya(largest oil market in EA) was Total though this doesn't mean that Total is better.
6. I know i'll be reminded of their profitability & growth but my query is do you see them sustaining this growth?
The reality is if KK never changes its way of doing biz, i see it as the biggest loser on UG's oil and thus not as a long term prospect.

I remember when i said this back in 2011 it was referred to as information overload
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
hisah
#103 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:05:14 PM
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The low @9.05 will be revisited when this bounce period is finalized. Supply has not yet been effectively tested...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mlennyma
#104 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:12:54 PM
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This share is just supported by the market bullish sentiments,because most counters seem too high to enter especially if you saw last years down to earth entry points..there is alot of money looking for a place to settle.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#105 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:42:34 PM
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erifloss wrote:
erifloss wrote:

#1799 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2011 4:52:27 PM
@vvs, all i'm trying to show is that all the hype around KK as this future gem as it stands right now is wrong.
1. Instead of being noisemakers, they should at least concentrate on lobbying for new legislature BAT or EABL style so as to get what they want.
2. Instead of being a one man show and thus being deprived of new ground breaking ideas, they should separate the responsibilities of the BOD from that of the Management by first having a non executive chairman & maybe reconstitute its management.
3. Instead of only divesting by opening retail business in different countries, they should also look into other lines of the oil business.
4. Globally, the business of oil is highly politicised as we globally are an oil driven economy & thus as an OMC you should always know the best way of dealing with the current politik.
5. Being only 2 listed OMCs, an illusion of comfort is always created by KK coz of its liquidity within the NSE & thus its price fluctuations when as per the last market survey the largest retailer in Kenya(largest oil market in EA) was Total though this doesn't mean that Total is better.
6. I know i'll be reminded of their profitability & growth but my query is do you see them sustaining this growth?
The reality is if KK never changes its way of doing biz, i see it as the biggest loser on UG's oil and thus not as a long term prospect.

I remember when i said this back in 2011 it was referred to as information overload
And you were right ;-)
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#106 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:44:50 PM
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Read this re: George Wachira
http://www.nation.co.ke/...24/-/u1bs0i/-/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#107 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:56:45 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

Is Devani still a wanted man?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#108 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:31:38 PM
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#Observer 8-|
murchr
#109 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2013 6:36:24 AM
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Hii bull haina mchezo @Mwekez@ji, who's buying?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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MoneyMonger
#110 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2013 7:29:30 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
This share is just supported by the market bullish sentiments,because most counters seem too high to enter especially if you saw last years down to earth entry points..there is alot of money looking for a place to settle.


I feel the same too.
There is nothing as dangerous as an Idea, when there is only one Idea
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