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KenolKobil FY 2012 substrata loss of 9b!
mwekez@ji
#41 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:48:33 AM
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the deal wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
When you lose a job at times you are forced to sell assets,for a company which was expanding like kk,a turn of events to sell assets is a very bad signal to any mindful investor,it means they cant meet their obligations through cash reserves in other words broke.

Offcourse you are more broke than KK...theyre selling non perfoming assets...KK is very liquid...look at their cash flow statement.


@the deal, sales turnover, sales volumes & cash at the end of 2012 were down 13%, 21% and 33% respectively. The increase in cashflow from operations was because they sold most of the stocks they were holding consequently reducing the stock holding to KES 8.9 from KES 24B. KK is going through a desperate time and is seeking desperate measures as pointed by @mlennyma
the deal
#42 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:49:09 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
It can be very bad if some guys throw this bad news aiming to buy cheap.

Offcourse not everyone is as backward thinking as some of you...you do realise Kenol is still in business...making money as we speak...the loss happened...its in the past...move on.
stocksmaster
#43 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:51:59 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
It can be very bad if some guys throw this bad news aiming to buy cheap.


@ mlennyma: It is the nature of capitalism (An economic system based on a free market, open competition, profit motive and private ownership of the means of production.)

The investors at the nse have smelt an opportunity to buy the kk share at a song helped by the disastrous 2012 financial year results. It is perfectly legal but not necessary moral to scare the weak hands into offloading at panic prices (Ksh 5).

Having said that, after analyzing the financial results of KK, i was shocked that almost 90% of its retained earnings accumulated over almost a decade were wipped out in this one financial year!! This may mean that for the next 3-4 years, the company has to painstakingly recreate those retained earnings hence a depressed dividend payment policy going forward.

I will only therefore consider it at a sub Ksh 5 price.

Happy hunting.
x handle: @stocksmaster79
the deal
#44 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:53:40 AM
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Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
When you lose a job at times you are forced to sell assets,for a company which was expanding like kk,a turn of events to sell assets is a very bad signal to any mindful investor,it means they cant meet their obligations through cash reserves in other words broke.

Offcourse you are more broke than KK...theyre selling non perfoming assets...KK is very liquid...look at their cash flow statement.


@the deal, sales turnover, sales volumes & cash at the end of 2012 were down 13%, 21% and 33% respectively. The increase in cashflow from operations was because they sold most of the stocks they were holding consequently reducing the stock holding to KES 8.9 from KES 24B. KK is going through a despite time and is seeking desperate measures as pointed by @mlennyma

Nonsense....whats the purpose of inventory? Do you know what inventory is?
hisah
#45 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:55:11 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
It can be very bad if some guys throw this bad news aiming to buy cheap.

Buy low, sell high. That's always the rule...

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mwekez@ji
#46 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:56:46 AM
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the deal wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
When you lose a job at times you are forced to sell assets,for a company which was expanding like kk,a turn of events to sell assets is a very bad signal to any mindful investor,it means they cant meet their obligations through cash reserves in other words broke.

Offcourse you are more broke than KK...theyre selling non perfoming assets...KK is very liquid...look at their cash flow statement.


@the deal, sales turnover, sales volumes & cash at the end of 2012 were down 13%, 21% and 33% respectively. The increase in cashflow from operations was because they sold most of the stocks they were holding consequently reducing the stock holding to KES 8.9 from KES 24B. KK is going through a despite time and is seeking desperate measures as pointed by @mlennyma

Nonsense....whats the purpose of inventory? Do you know what inventory is?


You should know how to speak well. am done with you!
Aguytrying
#47 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:00:07 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
It can be very bad if some guys throw this bad news aiming to buy cheap.


If I was a strategic investor I would be buying in bucket loads now and apply for takeover when I reach threshold
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
the deal
#48 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:01:51 AM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
When you lose a job at times you are forced to sell assets,for a company which was expanding like kk,a turn of events to sell assets is a very bad signal to any mindful investor,it means they cant meet their obligations through cash reserves in other words broke.

Offcourse you are more broke than KK...theyre selling non perfoming assets...KK is very liquid...look at their cash flow statement.


@the deal, sales turnover, sales volumes & cash at the end of 2012 were down 13%, 21% and 33% respectively. The increase in cashflow from operations was because they sold most of the stocks they were holding consequently reducing the stock holding to KES 8.9 from KES 24B. KK is going through a despite time and is seeking desperate measures as pointed by @mlennyma

Nonsense....whats the purpose of inventory? Do you know what inventory is?


You should know how to speak well. am done with you!

You can go to hell with your crap analysis.
mwekez@ji
#49 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:05:04 AM
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No wonder Puma withdrew their bid
Jamani
#50 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:05:12 AM
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It's a case of willing buyer desparate seller. I welcome the lowest price possible
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