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#141 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:13:31 AM
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guru267 wrote:
symbols wrote:
@AlphDoti - Explain this and correct me if I'm wrong in my assumption on it: 99 Names of Allah

On the same principle,can't God be the Father,the Son and The Holy Spirit?


@symbols you may call God whatever gets you to bed at night!

But calling God something is not the same as allocating three specific entitles of God existing at the same time.. That is to have three Gods!

Did Jesus ever do anything in his own name?! Or did he always proclaim the Father?! Why do we today pray in the name of Jesus?! Heal the sick in the name of Jesus?! Drive out demons in the name of Jesus?!

#DoNotBeFooled

John 14:13-14
Quote:

14:13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name,so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14:14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

Jesus the Christ is the redeemer of man.Through him can we be saved.There are no three gods but "I am".
Matthew 1:23 and Isaiah 7:14
Quote:

“Look! The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him Emmanuel,” which means “God with us.”

Did God then set Himself up for a contradiction?
guru267
#142 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:40:27 AM
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Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
guru267 wrote:
symbols wrote:
@AlphDoti - Explain this and correct me if I'm wrong in my assumption on it: 99 Names of Allah

On the same principle,can't God be the Father,the Son and The Holy Spirit?


@symbols you may call God whatever gets you to bed at night!

But calling God something is not the same as allocating three specific entitles of God existing at the same time.. That is to have three Gods!

Did Jesus ever do anything in his own name?! Or did he always proclaim the Father?! Why do we today pray in the name of Jesus?! Heal the sick in the name of Jesus?! Drive out demons in the name of Jesus?!

#DoNotBeFooled

John 14:13-14
Quote:

14:13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name,so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14:14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

Jesus the Christ is the redeemer of man.Through him can we be saved.There are no three gods but "I am".
Matthew 1:23 and Isaiah 7:14
Quote:

“Look! The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him Emmanuel,” which means “God with us.”

Did God then set Himself up for a contradiction?


@symbols and @tycho the gospels are the centre and heart of Christianity so I do not agree with a lot of the assertions made!?

We all know these so called words of Matthew and John were edited by the Romans 300 years long after they died without any chance to defend themselves... Sad Why do many of their assertions contradict the old testament??

Didn't God know what he was saying when he banned eating pork??

Didn't God know what he was doing when he blessed polygamous men??

Didn't God know why he allowed divorce??

Or was if the "hardness of our hearts"?? smile
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#143 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:45:48 AM
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Contradictions in the bible were set up by the Romans at the COUNCIL OF NACEA with the aid of Satanic power aka The Holy Spirit!

Google it in case you are not privy to the events that took place!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
symbols
#144 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:58:35 AM
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guru267 wrote:

@symbols and @tycho the gospels are the centre and heart of Christianity so I do not agree with a lot of the assertions made!?

We all know these so called words of Matthew and John were edited by the Romans 300 years long after they died without any chance to defend themselves... Sad Why do many of their assertions contradict the old testament??

What contradictions?
guru267 wrote:

Didn't God know what he was saying when he banned eating pork??


Matthew 15:17-20
Quote:

15:17 Don’t you understand that whatever goes into the mouth enters the stomach and then passes out into the sewer?15:18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things defile a person. 15:19 For out of the heart come evil ideas, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 15:20 These are the things that defile a person; it is not eating with unwashed hands that defiles a person.”


guru267 wrote:

Didn't God know what he was doing when he blessed polygamous men??

Didn't God know why he allowed divorce??

Or was if the "hardness of our hearts"?? smile

Acts 10:14-15
Quote:

But Peter said, “Certainly not, Lord, for I have never eaten anything defiled and ritually unclean!” 10:15 The voice spoke to him again, a second time, “What God has made clean, you must not consider ritually unclean!”

These are practices among men.Christ brought in spirituality for the body is already born of sin.The same God in the old testament still declared "thou shall not kill(better yet murder)" and directed others to kill.Contradictions are there but God is still infallible.
symbols
#145 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:31:18 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Contradictions in the bible were set up by the Romans at the COUNCIL OF NACEA with the aid of Satanic power aka The Holy Spirit!

Google it in case you are not privy to the events that took place!


Share what contradictions were set up by the council so that we may discuss them.

Numbers 11:25
Quote:

11:25 And the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to them, and he took some of the Spirit that was on Moses and put it on the seventy elders. When the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied, but did not do so again.

Deuteronomy 30:6
Quote:

30:6 The Lord your God will also cleanse your heart and the hearts of your descendants so that you may love him with all your mind and being and so that you may live.

Genesis 6:3
Quote:

So the Lord said, “My spirit will not remain in humankind indefinitely, since they are mortal. They10 will remain for 120 more years.”

With Christ and our salvation it will be both with us and in us.Cleansing our hearts and bringing the promise of eternal life and in turn fulfilling prophesy.How then,if God is Holy and His spirit Holy,can the Holy Spirit be satanic?
tycho
#146 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:05:30 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Contradictions in the bible were set up by the Romans at the COUNCIL OF NACEA with the aid of Satanic power aka The Holy Spirit!

Google it in case you are not privy to the events that took place!


@guru, the Holy Spirit, is and was the 'force' that helps in the path to salvation, and isn't directly related to Canon or doctrine. The Holy Spirit goes beyond these things.
Tokyo
#147 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:44:01 AM
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Guys welcome to Atheism. We believe that after this life, you shall sleep peacefully never to wake up again.
work to prosper
tycho
#148 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:03:51 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Guys welcome to Atheism. We believe that after this life, you shall sleep peacefully never to wake up again.


Lol. Time to prove the folly of atheism is around the corner.
washiku
#149 Posted : Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:56:59 AM
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guru267
#150 Posted : Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:50:12 AM
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Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Contradictions in the bible were set up by the Romans at the COUNCIL OF NACEA with the aid of Satanic power aka The Holy Spirit!

Google it in case you are not privy to the events that took place!


@guru, the Holy Spirit, is and was the 'force' that helps in the path to salvation, and isn't directly related to Canon or doctrine. The Holy Spirit goes beyond these things.


This "Holy Spirit" of yours has led the world to atheism...

The former champions of Christianity aka Europeans and USA are today complete Godless and immoral societies with African Christians quickly following suit Sad

We probably had a better chance at heaven with our traditional religions!

The questions and contradictions between the catholic church traditions and the bible are countless... Here is one major one!

Read what St. Timothy says about priests and marriage in 2 Timothy 3:1-6 and you will see that the Roman catholic church is the home of Satan and responsible for the downfall of Christianity!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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