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Nabwire
#21 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:49:26 PM
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BGL wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
I think this sums it up
If you are
1. smart and driven.... go to the US
2. smart but not driven...stay in Kenya or go to Europe
3. not smart but driven...go to the US
4. not smart and not driven...go to Europe
This doesnt mean that there are no smart people in Europe or no driven people, it just means that the possibility of you enjoying that country are higher if you fall under certain parameters.


@Nabwire
where do you belong?

Create a category for those people like me who have been to Europe and US but there is a strong magnetic force pulling them back to Kenya.


Almost everyone who has lived abroad for a long period, eventually wants to go back to Kenya. I think brain drain is actually a good thing coz people come back with transferable skills and a different outlook on life. Where do I belong? After having lived in both the US and Europe, I belong in Kenya smile I think progressive people in diaspora are always looking for ways to go back and build Kenya, but unfortunately there are alot of people who didnt have a plan and are trapped in the US, so I would say you are in the progressives lot!
urstill
#22 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:36:30 AM
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Does Canada belong to the States category ama ina yake? Aussie je? What of SA? Ama China? d'oh! Think
Man must live!
Mukiri
#23 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 1:58:25 AM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
Nabwire wrote:
BGL wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
I think this sums it up
If you are
1. smart and driven.... go to the US
2. smart but not driven...stay in Kenya or go to Europe
3. not smart but driven...go to the US
4. not smart and not driven...go to Europe
This doesnt mean that there are no smart people in Europe or no driven people, it just means that the possibility of you enjoying that country are higher if you fall under certain parameters.


@Nabwire
where do you belong?

Create a category for those people like me who have been to Europe and US but there is a strong magnetic force pulling them back to Kenya.


Almost everyone who has lived abroad for a long period, eventually wants to go back to Kenya. I think brain drain is actually a good thing coz people come back with transferable skills and a different outlook on life. Where do I belong? After having lived in both the US and Europe, I belong in Kenya smile I think progressive people in diaspora are always looking for ways to go back and build Kenya, but unfortunately there are alot of people who didnt have a plan and are trapped in the US, so I would say you are in the progressives lot!

How can I gauge if I'm smart or driven? Some people say I'm smart, others say I'm not... even when I'm driving!Sad Worse still, the same person will call me smart and again not smart depending on their mood. d'oh! Very confusing

Proverbs 19:21
Nabwire
#24 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:27:17 AM
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Posts: 1,325
Smart is generally someone who got good grades, I hope you wont ask where good grades fall. Although smart can also be someone like a mama mboga who with hardly any education, never gives the wrong change. Driven is someone who wants to be financially independent, self employed vs employed. Although there are some people who are employed but very driven to climb up the corporate ladder. My definition of a person who is not driven is someone who works for 40 years at the same job, hardly gets a raise and still diligently works while complaining about how expensive life is. In my experience, the best type of people who make it in the US and love it are the smart people who use their intellect to get ahead and the mama mboga types who are extremely driven. The rest just fall through the cracks.
Impunity
#25 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:54:50 AM
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Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
And now this:

‘Green Card’ to be abolished by US government

Sad Sad Sad
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

mawinder
#26 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:39:44 AM
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Joined: 4/30/2008
Posts: 6,029
urstill wrote:
Does Canada belong to the States category ama ina yake? Aussie je? What of SA? Ama China? d'oh! Think

Yes,an analysis of Canada,UAE,Australia is welcome.
quicksand
#27 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:52:35 AM
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Location: Nairobi


IMHO, before uprooting your Kenyan life and transferring it to Europe or the US, visit these places first. I have,..Europe is cold, the weather and the people, and very expensive ..and the US, there isn't as much money as one is led to believe if your certificates didn't come out of an American university, especially an Ivy League one;
You could spend a lot, give up a lot then find yourself sorely missing the Kenyan culture of friendliness and warmth, broken infrastructure and 'funniness', as Michael Joseph put it.
vky
#28 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:03:13 AM
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Posts: 572
quicksand wrote:


IMHO, before uprooting your Kenyan life and transferring it to Europe or the US, visit these places first. I have,..Europe is cold, the weather and the people, and very expensive ..and the US, there isn't as much money as one is led to believe if your certificates didn't come out of an American university, especially an Ivy League one;
You could spend a lot, give up a lot then find yourself sorely missing the Kenyan culture of friendliness and warmth, broken infrastructure and 'funniness', as Michael Joseph put it.

I concur
'One headache for famous medieval holy people was that someone might murder you to acquire your body parts for the relics trade'
chepkel
#29 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:45:16 AM
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Location: Nairobi
I would like an opinion about the Middle East, especially Qatar. Anybody with experience???
bkismat
#30 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:39:50 AM
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Joined: 10/23/2009
Posts: 2,375
chepkel wrote:
I would like an opinion about the Middle East, especially Qatar. Anybody with experience???

You can expect things like this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/new...rld-middle-east-22010122
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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