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Marty
#71 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:41:00 PM
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Andu,

Kai ndigi(thread) ino ii njega githemba giki. Kweri kari mata gatiagaga wa kuuga

..one is only poor if they choose to be
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
sokomjinga
#72 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:26:00 PM
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ni rurigi ti ndigi. Ndigi ni uingi wa rurigi. We never stop learning.

Andu aitu,rurigi rwa @TRS (Kenya not Kenyan ..) nirucoku. Ta thii-i ho muone kihumo kia uhoro uyu tukoretwo naguo wa ruthiomi rwa Gikuyu.


All beginnings are difficult ..... ..... everything has an end,only a sausage has two.
Taunet Neelel ..... New Beginning .....
sokomjinga
#73 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:13:00 PM
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@Kaigangio,

Unjuririe kiuria na ndinagucokeria. Riu reke ndigicokie.

Ota uria ndiraugite hau kabere nii ndiri njorua ya ruthiomi ruru rwitu. No nindahotire gwithomithia ndi munyinyi na kabuku karia ndiragwetire - karia ndaheirwo ni awa ndi munyinyi.

Ndiri ndaruta wiira wa warimu; nii ngoragwo ndi miako-ini. Riu ningi ndiri wa tene uguo hihi ureciria tondu ona githomo kia cekondari ndarikirie miaka ya 70 igithira.

Awa niwe waari mwarimu wakwa munene,ona gutuika we ndangiahotire guthoma. No niathikagiriria ngithoma na akahota kununga haria ndoogora.

Maundu mothe mekwenda wendo na kwirutaniria.



All beginnings are difficult ..... ..... everything has an end,only a sausage has two.
Taunet Neelel ..... New Beginning .....
simonkabz
#74 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:07:00 PM
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Location: Cameroon
This thing is real hard to read maze.

The only reason why some people are still alive is coz its illegal to shoot them!!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
obiero
#75 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:02:00 PM
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Why the use of m.t. U guys are the reason Africa sucks
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
kenmac
#76 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:34:00 PM
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obiero nang'o,idhinade my broda from another mother. there is documented scientific evidence that people use both the left and the right wing of their brain when they speak in mt,but use only the right wing when they use a foreign tongue_perhaps the reason why chinese and japanese who have stuck to their mt are more developed than us. it is not retrogressive to speak in your mt. it's time we appreciated our diversity,that which makes us unique to be our source of unity. elo kamano

don't expect anyone to act like your favourite grandmother in wanting what's best for you._Trump
......Ecclesiastes
sokomjinga
#77 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:18:00 PM
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@Obiero,

Your assertion that Africans remain the way we are because of using their mother tongues is not correct. Tell us,which progressive nation uses a foreign language for their everyday use?

NOT THE Americans,British,French,Swedes,Finish,Polish,Chinese,Japanese,Indonesian,Germans ......... you can name them all.

What about the poor nations,especialy the Africans? We are still competing to see who speaks the best English,Portuguese,Spanish,French etc instead of using our knowledge to do better things for our people.

Some people would want that vernaculars be abolished,but I think they should be encouraged for our identities to remain

You should not think that people woul stop butchering one another if they had one language - look at the Somalis or the Mungiki among the Kikuyu for example.

Dhi mos mos jayadha. Erokamano.


All beginnings are difficult ..... ..... everything has an end,only a sausage has two.
Taunet Neelel ..... New Beginning .....
wavidani
#78 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:56:00 PM
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@ Obiero:Mkosa mila ni mtumwa.We should take pride in our different languages and cultures.Tribal identity is something to be proud of.It's only bad when used as a basis for discrimination esp by politicians.

A lot of Kenyans even a huge chunk of those in the diaspora take pride in their accents and the fact that their kids or themselves don't speak their mother tongue.Most enlightened people,even westerners think you stupid if you can't speak your language.Put another way to bring the point home,it's like a masai being proud he can speak kisii,but cant speak masai. It's stupid.

I will endeavor to speak and write my mother tongue better than english.It's the only logical thing.I am ashamed I can write english better than my own m.t !Am teaching my kids to write my m.t not only speak it.

I was working with a Polish lad and was amazed that he browses the web in polish.The entire WWW in polish even google! Even the dutch,only 15M of them have the web in their own language.We need to read and write more in our languges til we don't think much of reading the bible in kiuk or a 1000pg novel.We sh'd try and slowly develop www in kiuk for posterity.Lack of written history ensued loss of great cultural things.Am envious when the people say europeans talk of what happened in 1035AD in europe! Wish we had that kind of written history.
obiero
#79 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:05:00 AM
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Thanx guys for the clean replies. U bear the true SK spirit. My point is,m.t is mainly used in negative situations. Like when in a mat and u dont want others to hear ua gossip. Several times iv listened in and rarely do i hear anything progressive. Seclusion proper. Thats the same thing on vern. radio. During hard times,remember 100 days. Its all god when there is no war. Bt when thinks go wrong,this is the fuel that sparks hate. Kiswahili kitukuzwe. Its being used on a much wider scale regionally. Somalia is a different case all together. I personally think they'r cursed.
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
The Real Shaft
#80 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:13:00 AM
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the amazing past.....

would show how singular tribes.....

ethnic groupings...

would colonize the rest and rule them......

look at Germany....

France.....

Great Britain....

former USSR...... now a million and one tribal nations.......

and then they would turn their attention......

to the rest of the world...

here...

we... if we would like to develop...

is retain our cultures and traditions.....

positively.....

diversity should be our strength......

not our weakness.....

while leaving room for official languages.....

I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
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