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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
theking
#2841 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:25:04 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
I cant wait for Tuesday..The shares will rally like Madsmile


For once m hoping the hol to end like now
youcan'tstopusnow
#2842 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:29:22 PM
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They should suspend the 10 percent rule on Tuesday;-)
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youcan'tstopusnow
#2843 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:45:58 PM
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Cde, all we ever asked for was peacesmile

This heralds political maturity. Kenya's political risk significantly reduced
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hisah
#2844 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:49:27 PM
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the deal wrote:
Its very easy to get carried away in a bull run...lets see what happens when the market clocks above 5000...valuations are currently above historic levels on most bluechip companies...we need strong earnings....super dividends...to keep the market excited....if nothing of that sort happens then a correction will come...I'm more worried about the current twin deficits (current & fiscal)...the effect of this deficits is that Treasury will have to borrow excessively resulting in yields in the fixed income market rising and its happening...3 month T-Bill yield 10.3% while inflation at 4.1%...once T-Bills creep to 15-20% consider this bull run slaughtered....guys will move money from stocks to bonds...banks will pass the cost of funds into the economy....I think thats the red flag for now.

True. If Tbills spike to 15% and above the rally will meet a brick wall...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2845 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:52:11 PM
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Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mwenza
#2846 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:10:27 PM
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hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...


The wanjikus are many...even here in Wazua.
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dunkang
#2847 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:15:16 PM
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Mukiri
#2848 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:09:05 PM
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hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?

Proverbs 19:21
mwenza
#2849 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:20:22 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?



No problem ...after all @VVS keeps reminding us of the "GAMBLER" lyrics.
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Aguytrying
#2850 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:52:33 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?


You should always look to profit from mr.markets folly, not participate in it.

Keeps your heads even as market sky rockets.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
obiero
#2851 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:08:14 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?


You should always look to profit from mr.markets folly, not participate in it.

Keeps your heads even as market sky rockets.

@aguytrying i love your investment outlook. very mature. most of these stocks, including KCB, are already overpriced!!!

KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
sl8r
#2852 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:13:43 PM
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Greetings smile

This may be a little bit off topic but this looks like a very active thread.

I have a questionnaire that may be of interest to you. It will only take 5 minutes. It involves the commercial viability of derivatives trading on the Nairobi Stock Exchange, im not from the NSE, Im just a student i promise smile I would like to hear your opinion.

If interested follow this link to fill it in.

Thank you for your time, and have a good one
sl8r
#2853 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:16:09 PM
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Greetings smile

This may be a little bit off topic but this looks like a very active thread.

I have a questionnaire that may be of interest to you. It will only take 5 minutes. It involves the commercial viability of derivatives trading on the Nairobi Stock Exchange, im not from the NSE, Im just a student smile I would like to hear your opinion.

If intersted follow this link to fill it in.

Thank you for your time and have a good one
hisah
#2854 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:41:46 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?

At this point many are late for the party! Think of it like buying an early ticket or a show ticket at the gate. The gate ticket is always expensive and yet you don't get the best sitting place... So I'll be selling my VIP ticket at the gate as I've already seen the show!

Buying in a euphoria (buying frenzy or bid-fest cocktail) will always get you trapped and you'll be buying the top Sad Then the same lot will sell in a huff when they experience no demand as the DJ stops the music. Then the discounts become attractive once again and the rally begins.

Markets are not that hard to understand if you remove the emotions.

Remember there will always be a next bus. Never rush your investment goals...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Mukiri
#2855 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:58:01 PM
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hisah wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?

At this point many are late for the party! Think of it like buying an early ticket or a show ticket at the gate. The gate ticket is always expensive and yet you don't get the best sitting place... So I'll be selling my VIP ticket at the gate as I've already seen the show!

Buying in a euphoria (buying frenzy or bid-fest cocktail) will always get you trapped and you'll be buying the top Sad Then the same lot will sell in a huff when they experience no demand as the DJ stops the music. Then the discounts become attractive once again and the rally begins.

Markets are not that hard to understand if you remove the emotions.

Remember there will always be a next bus. Never rush your investment goals...

I hear you.

I should send my broker over for lessons. She's the emotional one and I sometimes have to humor her(buy/sell even when I know I won't make money). I doubt she has many clients and if she's paid on commission, she's had hungry nights!

Proverbs 19:21
guru267
#2856 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 1:59:26 AM
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hisah wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?

At this point many are late for the party! Think of it like buying an early ticket or a show ticket at the gate. The gate ticket is always expensive and yet you don't get the best sitting place... So I'll be selling my VIP ticket at the gate as I've already seen the show!

Buying in a euphoria (buying frenzy or bid-fest cocktail) will always get you trapped and you'll be buying the top Sad Then the same lot will sell in a huff when they experience no demand as the DJ stops the music. Then the discounts become attractive once again and the rally begins.

Markets are not that hard to understand if you remove the emotions.

Remember there will always be a next bus. Never rush your investment goals...


@hisah the bull that is coming is simply a re rating process as Kenya*s political risk profile falls...

Stocks with P/Es of 9-12 will rally to P/Es of 12-15 and stocks at 3-6 P/E should see the largest rally to 7-9 P/E ratios..

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
sparkly
#2857 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:27:19 AM
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guru267 wrote:
hisah wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
hisah wrote:
Political barrier partially removed. ICC barrier still pending for the fearful bull.

If April 9 is gazetted a holiday it means NSE will have 2 weeks of 4 trading days each. This should elicit some fierce bidding as the trading contest ensues on the short trading period within those 2 weeks.

I will be selling to wanjikus at this point...

d'oh! And if the counters keep going higher and higher after you sell?

At this point many are late for the party! Think of it like buying an early ticket or a show ticket at the gate. The gate ticket is always expensive and yet you don't get the best sitting place... So I'll be selling my VIP ticket at the gate as I've already seen the show!

Buying in a euphoria (buying frenzy or bid-fest cocktail) will always get you trapped and you'll be buying the top Sad Then the same lot will sell in a huff when they experience no demand as the DJ stops the music. Then the discounts become attractive once again and the rally begins.

Markets are not that hard to understand if you remove the emotions.

Remember there will always be a next bus. Never rush your investment goals...


@hisah the bull that is coming is simply a re rating process as Kenya*s political risk profile falls...

Stocks with P/Es of 9-12 will rally to P/Es of 12-15 and stocks at 3-6 P/E should see the largest rally to 7-9 P/E ratios..



How true! Having exited Mpesa and NMG at an healthy profit (despite the fact that they are still rallying), i now await a full valuation on Kengen (av BP 9), centum (av Bp 16) and HF (av BP 15). Yet to dispose half of KCB.
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symbols
#2858 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:06:11 PM
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sl8r wrote:
Greetings smile

This may be a little bit off topic but this looks like a very active thread.

I have a questionnaire that may be of interest to you. It will only take 5 minutes. It involves the commercial viability of derivatives trading on the Nairobi Stock Exchange, im not from the NSE, Im just a student i promise smile I would like to hear your opinion.

If interested follow this link to fill it in.

Thank you for your time, and have a good one

Interesting
symbols
#2859 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:08:51 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Mr. Market has a mind of its own brothers and sisters.

Applause Applause Applause
dunkang
#2860 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:54:27 PM
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