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Pope Francis - Servant Leadership
McReggae
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:50:16 AM
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Servant leadership!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
AlphDoti
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:34:46 AM
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McReggae wrote:

Sorry @McDoba but this is all acting.

(Matthew 5:17-19)
Quote:
"Do not think that I came to destroy the law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. For assuredly, I say to you, till the heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one title will by no mean pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."


(John 14:15)
Quote:
"If you love me, keep my commandments"


The bulk of Christendom has misunderstood these verses as well as many others in the Bible.

They misunderstood Jesus all the time
every word, every sentence they misunderstood him.
Many times out of frustration Jesus would tell them: you of little faith.
He would explained to them like little children
But out more and more frustration, he would tell them "Yet you don't understand!"
He would call them "you faithless and pervous generation, how long will I be with you, how long bear with you?"

What is the benefit of doing sonething once as an act?
You see there so many things that people claim as a tradition, when they are actually doing it as convenient.
They choose what to do. There is no committment.

Take for example this washing of feet (by the way it should include face, hands as well)

Why should it be done as a norm?
- It hygiene. No one can dispute this.
- For psycological purpose. Preparing person for prayer.
- It is commandment given to Moses by God. Check it out in Exodus.
And Moses and Aron and sons, they washed their feet and hands when they went into the house of God, as Lord commanded Moses.
Some people still fulfil this commandment to date
- Jesus did the same,

Look at other rituals of water
(A) Partial washing of certain parts of the body e.g. hands, face, arm and feet before worship
Quote:
"Moses put the water-basin between the tent of meeting and altar and filled it with water. Moses, Aaron and his sons used it to wash their hand and feet whenever they entered the tent of meeting or approached the altar as the Lord commanded Moses" (Exodus 40: 30-32)

Quote:
Jesus washes His Disciples feet (John 13:5-9)


Quran:
Quote:
"O you who believe! When you intend to offer the prayer wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, rub your heads and wash your feet up to the ankles."(Quran 5:6)


(B) Ritual bath after sexual intercourse
Quote:
"When a man lies with a woman and there is emission of semen, both must bathe with water" (Leviticus 15:18)


(C) Ritual bath after menstrual period
Quote:
This bath is compulsory for every lady at the end of every monthly period (i.e. menstruation) (Leviticus 15:19-23)
McReggae
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:44:11 AM
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@Alphadoti:
Pope Francis is an amazing pope, He has decided to live in a small suite in a residence for clerics, eating with other priests in a common dining room, after deciding not to move into the palatial apartments occupied by his predecessors in the Apostolic Palace. Real humilty .
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
AlphDoti
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:51:00 AM
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McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti:
Pope Francis is an amazing pope, He has decided to live in a small suite in a residence for clerics, eating with other priests in a common dining room, after deciding not to move into the palatial apartments occupied by his predecessors in the Apostolic Palace. Real humilty.

He's just doing his job. He's just earning his bread for the day.
No offense but, not a single thing does he follow Jesus (peace be upon him) or a single commandment of God Almighty Shame on you Shame on you

If you doubt, engage me and I'll show it to you smile
McReggae
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:56:22 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti:
Pope Francis is an amazing pope, He has decided to live in a small suite in a residence for clerics, eating with other priests in a common dining room, after deciding not to move into the palatial apartments occupied by his predecessors in the Apostolic Palace. Real humilty.

He's just doing his job. He's just earning his bread for the day.
No offense but, not a single thing does he follow Jesus (peace be upon him) or a single commandment of God Almighty Shame on you Shame on you

If you doubt, engage me and I'll show it to you smile


I don't think I will be able to engage you with those you very long posts but as for me, I believe the new pope is a special one from how he has carried himslef since he was declared pope!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nakujua
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:00:06 PM
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Location: Kenya
McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti:
Pope Francis is an amazing pope, He has decided to live in a small suite in a residence for clerics, eating with other priests in a common dining room, after deciding not to move into the palatial apartments occupied by his predecessors in the Apostolic Palace. Real humilty .

this pope is cool, great show of being a servant from him
muganda
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:04:02 PM
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Judge not, that ye be not judged.

“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye."

Matthew 7:1-5

AlphDoti
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:16:10 PM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
McReggae wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti:
Pope Francis is an amazing pope, He has decided to live in a small suite in a residence for clerics, eating with other priests in a common dining room, after deciding not to move into the palatial apartments occupied by his predecessors in the Apostolic Palace. Real humilty.

He's just doing his job. He's just earning his bread for the day.
No offense but, not a single thing does he follow Jesus (peace be upon him) or a single commandment of God Almighty Shame on you Shame on you

If you doubt, engage me and I'll show it to you smile


I don't think I will be able to engage you with those you very long posts but as for me, I believe the new pope is a special one from how he has carried himslef since he was declared pope!!!

I promise to keep it short smile Pray
AlphDoti
#9 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:18:51 PM
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Location: Kenya
Anxious
nakujua wrote:
McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti:
Pope Francis is an amazing pope, He has decided to live in a small suite in a residence for clerics, eating with other priests in a common dining room, after deciding not to move into the palatial apartments occupied by his predecessors in the Apostolic Palace. Real humilty .

this pope is cool, great show of being a servant from him

Servant of the people, I may agree Anxious
But servant of God, I'm not sure about that. We will have to set ground rules first before we proceed about that Shame on you Shame on you
symbols
#10 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:21:29 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Anxious
nakujua wrote:
McReggae wrote:
@Alphadoti:
Pope Francis is an amazing pope, He has decided to live in a small suite in a residence for clerics, eating with other priests in a common dining room, after deciding not to move into the palatial apartments occupied by his predecessors in the Apostolic Palace. Real humilty .

this pope is cool, great show of being a servant from him

Servant of the people, I may agree Anxious
But servant of God, I'm not sure about that. We will have to set ground rules first before we proceed about that Shame on you Shame on you


Are you a servant of God?
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